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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Jul 20, 2014 11:11 am

As it was based on my original measurements, it should look something like this:

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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Jul 20, 2014 11:29 am

Ok, fair enough, that looks good!
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2014 12:02 am

All of the first batch of hitches are spoken for, thank you all. I will try to get them all shipped out by the end of this week. We are really busy at work, about 13 hour days right now, I will do my best. As I finish them I will pm you with estimated shipping cost and when I think they will go.
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2014 11:48 am

rabalc wrote:
wildcatman65 wrote:
Hello, count me in for a hitch.  Hot dip galvanize or powdercoat is the way to go.  I'm in Elgin IL and will be in St. Paul in 3 weeks, maybe I could pick one up?  Thanks!

I thought about hot dip galvanize, we most all our equipment that way, the only problem with that is the receiver may get excess galvanize in it an make it nearly impossible to get the hitch in.

I am only about an hour south of St. Paul, that would work for me.

I should be up there Thursday Aug. 7th or Friday the 8th. Can I get a contact number and I'll call the Monday before to set up a time. Thanks!
wildcatman65

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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2014 1:29 pm

This looks great.... I for one can't thank you enough for doing this and offering them to the group. Jeff
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2014 7:35 pm

I'm ok with drilling if anyone can give me some advice as to what I should treat the holes with to keep the rust at bay. Did you get my deposit? I didn't get any paypal confirmation of receipt but I'm not that familiar with it.

BTW, That looks awesome. I can't wait to get it on the wagon.
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2014 7:45 pm

wildcatman65 wrote:
rabalc wrote:
wildcatman65 wrote:
Hello, count me in for a hitch.  Hot dip galvanize or powdercoat is the way to go.  I'm in Elgin IL and will be in St. Paul in 3 weeks, maybe I could pick one up?  Thanks!

I thought about hot dip galvanize, we most all our equipment that way, the only problem with that is the receiver may get excess galvanize in it an make it nearly impossible to get the hitch in.

I am only about an hour south of St. Paul, that would work for me.

I should be up there Thursday Aug. 7th or Friday the 8th.  Can I get a contact number and I'll call the Monday before to set up a time.  Thanks!
wildcatman65


I pm'd you my phone no.
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2014 7:57 pm

j2rossit wrote:
I'm ok with drilling if anyone can give me some advice as to what I should treat the holes with to keep the rust at bay. Did you get my deposit? I didn't get any paypal confirmation of receipt but I'm not that familiar with it.

BTW, That looks awesome.  I can't wait to get it on the wagon.  

Yes I did get your deposit, thank you. You could dab a little paint or por15 on the raw steel to help
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2014 8:03 pm

I'll look into that. would I need a primer?
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2014 8:14 pm

Oh, and for drilling the holes in the frame. Since I wouldn't be able to fit the car under a drill press  Very Happy what is the best way of keeping the hole centered from where I start it. Using a bunch of smaller bits slowly getting up to the 3/4 size, or to just punch a dent at the center and start with the 3/4 bit and take your time?
Pretty much the extent of my automotive drilling experience has been limited to seized exhaust or engine bolts.
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j2rossit wrote:
Oh,  and for drilling the holes in the frame.  Since I wouldn't be able to fit the car under a drill press  Very Happy what is the best way of keeping the hole centered from where I start it.  Using a bunch of smaller bits slowly getting up to the 3/4 size,  or to just punch a dent at the center and start with the 3/4 bit and take your time?
Pretty much the extent of my automotive drilling experience has been limited to seized exhaust or engine bolts.

My plan is to mount the hitch with existing holes, and run 3/4 right through, the 1/4 inch steel of the hitch will act as a guide to keep the bit from wandering
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Yeah, I was hoping to avoid damaging the beautiful (I can see it already in my head) powder coat. But If I'm touching up some holes on the frame, it's no big deal to be touching up the holes in the hitch at the same time.
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j2rossit wrote:
Yeah, I was hoping to avoid damaging the beautiful (I can see it already in my head) powder coat. But If I'm touching up some holes on the frame, it's no big deal to be touching up the holes in the hitch at the same time.

Your washer and nut should cover any damage to powder coat that would happen, If you keep your wagon shinny side up I don't think anyone would ever see it
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2014 9:09 pm

Either a 3/4" hole saw or drill a pilot hole large enough to accommodate the web of a 3/4" drill bit. Few people will have a 3/4" drill motor, so use a Silver & Deming bit (reduced shank size).

Self-priming "rust" paint should be good -- not much is going to get at the metal as it is sandwiched between the hitch and the washer anyway. A nice healthy coat of anti-seize is always a good idea on the bolts.
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2014 9:30 pm

rabalc wrote:
j2rossit wrote:
Yeah, I was hoping to avoid damaging the beautiful (I can see it already in my head) powder coat. But If I'm touching up some holes on the frame, it's no big deal to be touching up the holes in the hitch at the same time.

Your washer and nut should cover any damage to powder coat that would happen, If you keep your wagon shinny side up I don't think anyone would ever see it

Lol,  I'll try and keep the shiny side up.   But it aint for appearances that I'm concerned. I just watched a Dodge Dakota literally dissolve in 4 years. I want to give the wagon all the chances it can get.
This is from last year before the rust was too bad  Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2014 9:51 pm

j2rossit wrote:
rabalc wrote:
j2rossit wrote:
Yeah, I was hoping to avoid damaging the beautiful (I can see it already in my head) powder coat. But If I'm touching up some holes on the frame, it's no big deal to be touching up the holes in the hitch at the same time.

Your washer and nut should cover any damage to powder coat that would happen, If you keep your wagon shinny side up I don't think anyone would ever see it

Lol,  I'll try and keep the shiny side up.   But it aint for appearances that I'm concerned. I just watched a Dodge Dakota literally dissolve in 4 years. I want to give the wagon all the chances it can get.
This is from last year before the rust was too bad  Shocked
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It doesn't look like any amount of touch up paint would of helped that affraid 
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 22, 2014 5:37 am

Go buy a cheap spring loaded center punch. Also, i have used this stuff from loctite that is a rust convertor. It seals the surface pretty well
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 22, 2014 9:03 am

I wouldn't be too worried about rust, the frame is already bare steel......
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I thought there was a coating on it....
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 22, 2014 11:04 am

Rabalc

Could not access sending a personal message so sent email to your gmail account
Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 22, 2014 11:09 am

yes, there is a nice coating of rust. Maybe some frame paint left from the factory. Not sure if the frames were painted like the trucks of the era.
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Jul 26, 2014 9:38 am

Hello Rabalc, haven't seen any posts on here for quite a few days about the hitch fabrication. How's it going? All working out like you expected?
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 29, 2014 9:51 pm

JUst to update every one...The hitches are at the powder coater, expect to see them by Thursday, will try to get them all shipped out on Friday, fedex seems to be the cheapest, sent one with out powder coat to California for 57.

will inform you via pm of estimated shipping, they measured as 47l x 24w x 5 tall, 45 lbs
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 29, 2014 10:05 pm

Thanks for the update... Jeff
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 8:21 am

Hey Rabalc, I'm still planning on picking one up the Aug. 7th 8th or maybe on my way home on the 10th. Do you want a deposit? I'll try calling you this PM if that's OK.
Steve
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 11:20 am

A picture of a completed hitch would be worth a thousand words,..
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 31, 2014 7:18 am

Thanks rabalc, that's great news, can't wait to get it. I'm out of town right now, hitch should be waiting for me when I get back, and I'll be set for my towing trip. Like I said before, it's super nice of you to do all this and offer it up to others, thanks very much!

I don't have much experience with fasteners, can you or anyone else specify the correct names, grades etc.. and sizes of the bolts I should buy and anything else I need to install it, so I can visit a fastner shop and get the correct stuff first time. That would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Heliraf
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 31, 2014 7:46 am

That's great!
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 01, 2014 8:44 pm

Hey guys, good news bad news... picked up hitches from powder coat, I am not very happy with the job they did. They were closed when I got there had them leave them out for me so there was nothing I could do.  I guess its up to you guys if you want them as is, or if you want me to send them back and wait longer. they did not coat the inside of the long tube, and a couple of them have some light spots. Its a 45 minute drive one way, and we are working 12 hr days right now so its really a pain for me to go down there. Please let me know and I am really sorry for their screw up

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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2014 8:37 am

That's awesome!
I don't need you to spend all that extra time (especially after seeing those kids seats!) I'm getting the car oil sprayed after I mount the hitch and I'll tell them to hit the inside of the tube with extra.
I'll pm you my address.
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Depending on where I am on the list, I'll take one, already sent a deposit.
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2014 9:28 am

Every one that has made a deposit will be getting there hitch shipped out by Monday if you are ok with the powder coat as is, please let me know so I can get them wrapped up and to fedex.

Thanks Rich
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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2014 9:32 am

I'm ok with the way they are (rust is not a big issue here) and I can coat the tube just let me know the balance to pay pal you. Thanks, Jeff P.S. I'm not in a big hurry so ship when you get time maybe they can go from your work.
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Works for me to ship as is. They look awesome! I can dress up any spots during the mounting process. Send me the balance owed and I will get that to you. Thanks again. I will be needing another shortly; got my eye on a 96 Roadie Wagon one owner car I hope to pick up soon! When you do another run let me know. Thanks again!!!
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Hey guys, for some reason my pms are not sending, I do have shipping figured out, trying to send them.... a couple went a couple didn't, they are just sitting in outbox.

I sent to four of you last night, I see 1 in my sent box, got a reply, two in outbox that wont send, and one gone MIA.

If you could send me a note on my gmail I could reply back that way and know you are getting it
Rabalcome@gmail.com

Thanks , Rich
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I got your PM so I gather that I was that one reply?
payment sent yesterday.
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j2rossit wrote:
I got your PM so I gather that I was that one reply?
payment sent yesterday.

Yes sir, you are all wrapped up ready to go, making trip to fedex Tues night. Thank you
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no no no, Thank YOU!
I just picked up a second wagon last week, so I'll probably be back for another. But I'll go to the back of the line and let others have a chance first...
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buickwagon wrote:
This doesn't affect you at your end, but if you tick "gift" and the declared value is under $200, then it is not dutiable and the recipient is not subjected to additional brokerage fees on receipt, otherwise the recipient pays any applicable taxes and/or duty  on receipt.

That is incorrect.  The value is $60 (sixty) for a gift.  Also, the person shipping it has to send it to you personally and include a card or other notice indicating that it is a gift.  The checkbox is not sufficient notice.

Also, thanks for getting those hitches made. Very cool.
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Son of a pup -- you are right. When did the rules change? It used to be up to $200 was OK, but if it was anything over that (eg: $201) then you paid on the entire value. But looking at the CBSA website, now it's $60, and you pay only on the amount that exceeds the $60.
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My hitch arrived today THANK YOU VERY MUCH.....
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Mine is coming tomorrow can't wait.
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Got home from work to find this.
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Got mine the other day as well.
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glad to see you are getting your hitches, hope you all enjoy... sorry for the packaging, hopefully it does not take to long to remove the miles of shrink wrap
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Rich,

Not sure if you discussed the hardware required do you have the hardware noted from your install? Jeff
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Jeff, I have not yet had time to install mine yet, I would think 3/4 x 1-1/4 grade 8 bolts would be long enough
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I saw the one Malibusswagon ordered. Very well made! Will you be making a 2nd run of these? I'm thinking I might swap out my class II
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Maybe early winter time, just too busy to do any now.  Will not offer powder coat, too much time and hassle, didn't turn out as nice as I would have liked. also to ship no need to package or worry about getting damaged.  Will post if and when I will do more. I am also waiting for feedback on install, I have access to heavy duty drills, impacts, tools so I don't think it will be an issue for me, but others may not have that available making it a little more difficult


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PostSubject: Re: class 3/4 hitch   class 3/4 hitch - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 16, 2014 3:15 pm

rabalc wrote:
Maybe early winter time, just too busy to do any now.  Will not offer powder coat, too much time and hassle, didn't turn out as nice as I would have liked. also to ship no need to package or worry about getting damaged.  Will post if and when I will do more

Thats fine, thats when I'll be working full time again anyways.
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