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PostSubject: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Thu May 28, 2015 2:26 am

Ill start out with my All stock (except for a couple slightly more throaty mufflers) '96 Roadmaster. Best pass e.t wise was a 15.544 back on Oct 20,2009. Best mph. was 89.34 back on Oct 11, 2012 .
Both were done at Atco Dragway in NJ. Stock 2.93 gears.

Ok all you owners with your "spiffed up" Roadie Estates, what did she do? Stockers and near stockers post too!
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Thu May 28, 2015 9:00 am

2010 before changing to a posi and 3.42:1 rear end. Engine  now being reinstalled after "refreshing" and better programming.


14.30s @ 94.7 mph

I'm shooting for over 100mph in the traps this year.

There is a specific B-body event coming up nearby at  New York International Raceway Park  (Empire Drags) on Saturday August 29, with a rain date of Sunday August 30. Here's some FB info on the event. It's about 30 miles south of Rochester NY, near Geneseo, NY. You can google the location easily in Google Maps.

https://www.facebook.com/events/1565093523749307/permalink/1592834530975206/


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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Thu May 28, 2015 4:02 pm

With my current wagon my best was a 15.24@89.94. Back when I had my Electra Estate the best was a 13.51@99+ which was the last run it made with that drive train a 406 (dyno at 414hp and 440tq)with a 700 r4 3.23 gear. I broke the rear end (side gears which I replaced and ran fine) and had to tow it home. That winter I pulled the 406 out and put it in a regal as a play car.

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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Thu May 28, 2015 7:27 pm

14.32 with my old rear that had 3.23 gears. i was spinning the tires. i will look for my slips. i was at atco dragway
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:28 pm

15.1 in my Olds.  Bone stock 5.3l LS engine 3.23 gears.
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PostSubject: 383 T56 95 Caprice Wagon   Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:06 am

My 383 T56 Wagon. (4.56 rear gear, 200 AI heads) went 12.6 at Cayuga Speedway on it's only trip down the quarter. This was with a full exhaust and street radials. The car has more in it...my inability to shift gears, and reluctance to let it rev beyond 5500 was the limiting factor.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:12 am

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My 383 T56 Wagon. (4.56 rear gear, 200 AI heads) went 12.6 at Cayuga Speedway on it's only trip down the quarter. This was with a full exhaust and street radials. The car has more in it...my inability to shift gears, and reluctance to let it rev beyond 5500 was the limiting factor.

And stock pushrods!!
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:33 pm

i found my slips will have to post a pic when my wife is home. my camera will not focus clearly on the writting , hers should work. any way when it was stock with 256 it went15.486 with a 60' of 2.29 and its best with 323 gears and other mods it went 14.23 with a 60' of 1.909. i wont to go soon to see what the 373 and new tail pipes will do
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PostSubject: Stock push rods   Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:49 pm

Tim as you know the stock push rods were a surprise! If I had of known about them it likely would not have been at the track at all. After my mishap I took a look on one of the F body sites and discovered that its not all that uncommon for a stock 3 piece push rod to come apart.

Its nice to have all 8 cylinders working again Smile
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:30 pm

Never did a 1/4 mile, my 93 TBI does a 0-60 mph in 10 seconds. Haven't got a clue if that's " normal"
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:01 pm

14.88 @ 91 last October. Only mods to car are 4.10 gears, 1st base and home plate delete, cat-delete and straight thru-mufflers.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:54 pm

lvd2340, did you ever run it stock for a base line result? No cats? Doesn't Mass. have vehicle inspections?
Not familiar with baseball references.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:55 pm

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lvd2340, did you ever run it stock for a base line result? No cats? Doesn't Mass. have vehicle inspections?
Not familiar with baseball references.

Did not run it stock I had the gears installed before I ever ran it. The baseball references are to the air intake resonators, the one on top of the engine looks like home plate and the one in between that and the air cleaner assembly is called first base. I bought it with no cats too, yes Mass does have vehicle inspections but anything older than 15yrs old does not need to pass emissions just safety.

For reference I did take a 94 Caprice Wagon with only 44k miles for a pass down the track, all original very clean. It had the tow package with the 2.93 limited slip rear. It went 16.09 @ 85.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:59 pm

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For reference I did take a 94 Caprice Wagon with only 44k miles for a pass down the track, all original very clean. It had the tow package with the 2.93 limited slip rear. It went 16.09 @ 85.
Wow I didnt realize that stock tow pak wagons were that slow Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:18 am

Umm, you did read the very first entry in this thread, correct?. My 15.54 took more than one try. I ran some 16.0* passes. Heat sink really had an effect at the track.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:41 pm

My brother just saw what he called a stock sounding wagon run 15.31 at Lebanon Valley today. No exhaust mods for sure as he said it was very quiet.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:24 pm

Dunno if any of you have ever been on this site. B-body drag times. Top ET/MPH   held by a wagon.

http://www.top-et.com/impalass/
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:01 am

GMjonn wrote:
My brother just saw what he called a stock sounding wagon run 15.31 at Lebanon Valley today. No exhaust mods for sure as he said it was very quiet.

That was my wagon
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:19 am

Really? Small world lol. Any mods to the car?
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:41 am

Check his signature,John. It lists a few.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:52 am

Andebe wrote:
Check his signature,John. It lists a few.
. 14.80s vrs 15.30s has me wondering if it's the same car as others have 15.50s times posted on a stock car.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:03 pm

Amazing what a 4.10 rear can do to help a 4500lb. boat do in the 1/4 mile. More so than the other mods by themselves.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:25 am

12:12 am , coming back from drag racing. Shammoo made it there. Prior to leaving for the even, I tried to get of my warm lean issues. Looked at some fuel tables from late last year, and noticed they were about 10% richer, so I copied them to get me out of the lean conditions for the day.That worked. Also added some cranking fuel in the 170-210 temp range to combat hot restart issues. That also seemed to work.

As a reminder, previous best ever, 14.3 at 94.7 mph  

So first run by my son, in drive, just stomp and go.   14.38s @ 94.54 mph

My first run, using ratchet shifter.... 14.19s @ 95.50 mph

Second run, using ratchet shifter.....14.35s  @  96.85  

So I ran my best time and best trap speed ever. It hooked up well on the track, not much wheel spin with everyone else leaving lots of rubber on it.

I'm sure there's more in there yet to be found, but the transmission is really early in drive. By 3000 rpm in already in second gear, and it's making lots of clicking noises in drive or reverse. Need that looked in to quickly.

Top dog of the Impalas was Dan Faye, beating perennial finalist Rob Hamilton.

It was a great day, not only for the cars, (lots of pics coming) when I finally get home) the racing and renewing friendships, but most of all...

I got to spend it with my son, Rich.

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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:05 am

Might be the universals in the shaft,.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:11 am

I'd thought about that, hoping for something simple.The noise is there even when the car is standing still, which would indicate it's not the universals, as they are not moving at that time, but the clicking is still there.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:07 pm

Interesting to see the time slips and hear about others.

I have never been to a track with a proper time clock, etc. However, not too long after I got the car I did try it out on a nice level section of empty highway over a measured 1/4 mile with a stopwatch in one hand and the wheel in the other. IIRC, my highly unscientific "test" produced a figure around 15 seconds. (stock tow-pack 95 RMW).

Mind you, hook-up was not an issue. I had the studded snow tires installed at the time (left some nice scars in the pavement).
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:15 pm

Studded snow tires.....  the old school version  of traction control.


 Pro-mod class for sure
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:31 pm

Congrats Dave on a new personal best...Ive always heard you gotta drive it like you stole it...Its supposed to take your head out thinking about how much everything costs. Any truth to that?
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:38 pm

Naw.. I'm a cheap bastard at heart.
 My son's friend, Matt Gunther drives Pro-Mod..  844 Cu In... not a typo! 844!

 That's two of my engines and a rider lawn mower that I don't even own.
 Last run, which he won, was at night. We watched from behind the line. 
 You could see two white hot flames coming from the exhauts. It reminded us of watching Top Gun, when the launch the jets off the deck , and you saw the two twin exhaust trails. 

AWESOME! Just awesome... and the noise. What?  WHAAT!
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:49 pm

Here's the proof.



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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:18 am

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14.32 with my old rear that had 3.23 gears. i was spinning the tires. i will look for my slips. i was at atco dragway

John, based on info in your signature, who did those engine and trans mods? Those are close to the times I am looking to get with mine.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:36 am

Are we just talking wagons?
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:45 pm

nstg8r wrote:
Are we just talking wagons?

Ummm.........YEAH Rolling Eyes Wagons rule!
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:16 pm

Steve Smith wrote:
nstg8r wrote:
Are we just talking wagons?

Ummm.........YEAH  Rolling Eyes  Wagons rule!
Obviously, I just don't have a time for the wagon yet.  I did a 14.93 in the Formula with a DA of 8700ft when it was bone stock.
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:04 pm

Just got back from a little fun at the Atlanta Dragway (SSHS). I was only able to get in 3 passes this morning before I had to leave for a wedding gig...but I was pretty happy with my time. Kept spinning off the line...but I still managed to get a 14.94 1/4 with my slow foot!

I also learned that my wagon is FAT. 4,805lbs with me! Had a full tank and also full of other stuff...I literally just ran it as is.








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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:45 pm

my caprice is 4590 lbs. with full tank of gas and no passengers. cant remember if that was with bench seat or buckets and console
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PostSubject: Re: What's your best 1/4 mile pass? No "fibbing" now!   Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:47 pm

According to a Buick sales booklet I have from 1996, a Roadmaster wagon's base curb weight is
4,486 lbs. The gas tank holds 21 gallons. Gas is approx. 6.2 lbs./gallon. Total = 4,616.2 lbs.
The Caprice weighs less than the Roadmaster due to the Buick (among other things) having the Vista roof, power passenger seat, suspension air compressor.
I'm sure members here have the Caprice wagon stats to compare to the Roadmaster's.
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