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Should the 2016 Wagonfest date be changed?
I would prefer the weekend of Saturday July 23, 2016 for Wagonfest 2016
38%
 38% [ 10 ]
I would prefer the date remain the last Saturday July 30,2016
23%
 23% [ 6 ]
I can attend either date, so it makes no difference to me
19%
 19% [ 5 ]
I can't or won't attend either date, didn't bother to read the instructions, and am being a jerk by voting anyway.
19%
 19% [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 26
 

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lakeffect
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PostSubject: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:58 am

In consideration of all the comments received to move the Wagonfest Show one weekend earlier, so that it coincides with other local events, we are having a poll to verify interest in  adate change from July 30,2016 to  July 23, 2016.

Keep in my that even if the vote is for movement, that date  of July 23 may have been already taken to reserve the lakeside tent. In which case it will remain as is this year.

Please vote IF you would consider  ACTUALLY ATTENDING the event one date,  or the other. If neither date works for you, or you would NOT be attending anyway, please don't vote in a manner that would screw things up  for the rest of us.

The poll will remain open for 14 days from sunday jan 10 or until such time as determined that no other tent reservation is possible.


Thanks for your participation.

Dave


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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:05 pm

Dave, I prefer the date not to change.  I like the stability of knowing it's going to be the same every year.  You don't have to think when is it this year or next.  I think there's been this conversation before.  Keeping it the same weekend every year, is part of the beauty of it.

In all honesty, those car shows are not very well attended by the wagon guys.  I think I have been once or twice in seven or eight years. At least for me, it's not something you need or want to attend every year. The majority of the guys usually went to Watkins Glen on Friday night, that was well attended.  Also remember, most of the guys show up on Friday night, too late for the car show anyway.  The second show in Seneca Falls was on the day (Sunday) that everyone leaves.

I know that you reserve our spot at the Park as soon as possible to secure the site, thank you.  I also realize WF in NY would have been a thing of the past, if I wasn't for Dave. If it were me, I would not be happy with your hard work being undermined.

As you know there are other things to do, for one, if you haven't done the wineries, they are pretty interesting, and that's coming from a beer drinker. We used to cruise to the Truck Stop for dinner and BS--ing in the parking lot.

Bottom line, there's plenty to do without changing the date.

Tom
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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:00 am

I would LOVE the date to be changed to the third week of July for purely selfish reasons.  The national conference of my professional organization is always the final week of July.   That explains why despite living in Geneva, I am damned to the eternal hell of watching Wagonfest pass by each year, while I am stuck in a convention center in East Bummhump, MI.  In all the years of Wagonfest, I have only been able to attend twice, and I can quite literally roll downhill to the lake from my driveway.

Not to understate the difficulty here, but the amount of work in organizing this event would not change if the date were moved.  The work would just be shifted in time.  The time change would open up some new opportunities to coincide with other local events.  I'd certainly volunteer my time as the local guy in Geneva to help out if the date were moved.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:25 am


dmg4 wrote:
I would LOVE the date to be changed to the third week of July for purely selfish reasons.  The national conference of my professional organization is always the final week of July.   That explains why despite living in Geneva, I am damned to the eternal hell of watching Wagonfest pass by each year, while I am stuck in a convention center in East Bummhump, MI.  In all the years of Wagonfest, I have only been able to attend twice, and I can quite literally roll downhill to the lake from my driveway.

Not to understate the difficulty here, but the amount of work in organizing this event would not change if the date were moved.  The work would just be shifted in time.  The time change would open up some new opportunities to coincide with other local events.  I'd certainly volunteer my time as the local guy in Geneva to help out if the date were moved.

Actually, It's the 4th weekend, as there are 5 this year.

Hopefully that doesn't prevent you from still attending.

A little history: The Geneva Crusin' Night has historically been on the 4th Friday in July since at least 2002, with the exception of 2011 when it was held on the 2nd weekend (no explanation found).

WFNY weekend has always coincided with the Cruise Night (disregarding 2011, as explained above) with the only exceptions being 2005 (The first WF - like 3 cars attended) and now 2016, where in both years the 4th Friday was on the 22nd and the month of July had 5 full weekends

To summarize: Every year that hasn't a July with 5 weekends - which is to say every WF year except 2005, 2011 & 2016 - from inception to the present, WF & Geneva have always been held the on same weekend.

Since it won't happen again until 2022 - and then again in 2033 - it would appear that any inconvenience to remember it is the 4th Friday and not "the last weekend July" would be trivial at best.

And if you think that is tough, then don't even try to figure out which Sunday Easter will fall on.  Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:46 am

Yep. Four or five weekends is not the issue for me. If there's an earlier date, I'm all for it. Despite the foregoing diversity in weekend number, I'd still be elsewhere. As I said, this is a purely selfish issue for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:10 am

I have sent an Email inquiry to my contact person at the park about a date change. I should receive a response in the next couple of days. So far the poll shows 7 to 2 to change the date to one weekend earlier.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:12 am

I feel that moving the date just enhances the whole weekend experience and it's the right thing to do. After all, 3 potential events all in 1 weekend cant go wrong there. I'm sure (and hope I'm not talking out of turn) Dave wont mind making a call to move the tent reservation. If needed Dave just drop me a line and I'll make the call. No biggie!!. We all know that he puts in a lot of unsolicited / "behind the scenes" work into this event and if there is anything he needs I'm positive all he'll have to do is ask. Plus a great many of the wagon guys if not enter they go and see the festivities at both Friday and Sunday shows.

Just my thoughts. "You may now continue with today's regular scheduled program."

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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:52 am

I haves received word from Seneca Lake Sate Park,  that the lakeside tent IS still available for  Saturday July 23, and the park manager is willing to move our reservation date from July 30.PROVIDED THAT NO ONE ELSE pays for it in the mean time


If you intent to vote, PLEASE DO SO IMMEDIATELY, before that date is taken and it all becomes a moot point.


Thanks to everyone for your input, both pro and con.


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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:49 am

Oh boy! I'll be going to wagon fest. The next week end will be boat fest on Seneca lake! cheers


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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:29 pm

I'll be there either way (pending another last minute screw-up like last year), but I prefer the 23rd based on the local car show events.

The other shows really do add to the WF experience - I mean, who the hell wants to just look at a bunch of station wagons all weekend anyway? geek

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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:05 pm

Okay, makes a little more sense with the whole 5 weekends thing, I see the consistency of going every fourth weekend of July rather than just the last weekend of July.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:48 am

Time is running out folks. Please take time to consider attending Wagonfest 2016, and adding your vote to our poll.

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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:25 am

i have not been around lately, good thing i checked i guess we will know on the 24th about the date.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:14 am

Today is the last day for voting.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:43 pm

Can I vote twice for the earlier date? Al Capone advised to vote early and often.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:36 am

The poll for voting for the date of Wagonfest is now closed. The members have spoken.

The date of the event will be moved one week prior to the original date.

The date of Wagonfest 2016 will be Saturday July 23, 2016

The votes were ten for the change, six to remain the same, and five having no preference.

I will inform the management of Seneca lake State Park. They have Been kind enough to hold both dates open for us.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:07 am

I personally vote to leave it as is.
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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:15 am

Ah, I see Floridians are still struggling with the voting process.


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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:38 am

^^^You win the internet today.^^^ cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Poll Vote for Wogonfest date change   Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:53 am

How about "hanging Chad".
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