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PostSubject: What is this stuff and how do I remove it? (paint)   Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:24 am

Roof rack is removed, and since I'm waiting for some parts I want to clean things up. The checking/cracking in the paint is probably due to the shoe goo that was on there, not much I can do about that. It's under the rack so I don't care too much about it. However the white stuff that's accumulated at the edge of the roof rack is tough crud! I hit it with some compound and it just laughed at me. Acetone won't do anything to it either.

Any speculation as to what this stuff is and how/if it can be cleaned up without causing collateral damage?

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PostSubject: Re: What is this stuff and how do I remove it? (paint)   Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:49 am

try clr
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PostSubject: Re: What is this stuff and how do I remove it? (paint)   Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:52 am

Aha, yes. I will give that a try!
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PostSubject: Re: What is this stuff and how do I remove it? (paint)   Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:09 pm

Well, Nick, that was a great suggestion but so far it didn't do anything. I probably should have mentioned that the stuff is a brownish color, the white color came after attempting to compound it out.
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PostSubject: Re: What is this stuff and how do I remove it? (paint)   Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:05 am

I tried a bunch of different things, and finally gave in and bought a clay bar. The clay hangs up on the stuff, but doesn't remove it. I think I'd need to get a buffer to get this stuff out.

Unless anyone has any other suggestions, I feel that I gave it a go and I'll just wax over it and call it done.

On the plus side, I've never used clay on a car before, and I'm a believer in this stuff now. I'm going to clay the whole car (well, the parts that are painted, anyway)
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PostSubject: Re: What is this stuff and how do I remove it? (paint)   Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:31 pm

I was thinking clr as well.  Did you let it sit for a while and hit it with some elbow grease?
I've had some calcium build-up around faucets and other things that take a good long soaking to really even start to get the build-up to release.  Sometimes repeated soakings are needed for a heavy deposit.

Wood plane? Razor blades? Steel wool?
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PostSubject: Re: What is this stuff and how do I remove it? (paint)   Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:54 pm

Could it be the clear-coat that is cracking and breaking down? Clear polyurethane is really tough stuff. After a paint job, when you sand and buff the clear-coat, if you don't quickly get all the clear powder off that ends up in crevices, you will never get it off. I have a couple little spots that I missed in the corner of a door post, and it looks very similar to what you have, only smaller.
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PostSubject: Re: What is this stuff and how do I remove it? (paint)   Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:59 pm

I let the CLR sit, but you can't let it sit too long or it evaporates.

It could definitely be that the clear coat is damaged and that what I'm seeing isn't on the paint but actually in the paint.

Going over it several times with the clay bar at least smoothed it out a bit. It's rough though, the clay sticks to it, and a silicone drying blade also gets hung up by it.

I just ended up waxing over it and put the roof rack back on.
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PostSubject: Re: What is this stuff and how do I remove it? (paint)   Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:29 am

if the clr did nothing,.

my next best interenet photo diagnosis guess, would be,
sometime or another somebody re-clear coated the roof withoit removing the roof rack

now the roof rack is back on,.. when u drive at 30mph on a wet day past someone standing on the curb
i'll bet they won't even notice it now
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PostSubject: Re: What is this stuff and how do I remove it? (paint)   Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:38 pm

Yeah, it would be pretty hard to spot. Very Happy

If I were carrying around a small black hole it might be visible from passers-by, but I'd need some pretty stout suspension upgrades before I could do that.

Re-clearing is an interesting thought. The marks are at the edge of the rack plastic, and they go both under the plastic and into the exposed parts of the paint. Maybe something leached out of the plastic and damaged the paint, or possibly it stems from whatever that glue was that was put on in an attempt to water seal the rack.

It's curious to me, but unless you're standing on a ladder and looking down at the roof, nobody will care. I just wanted to clean it off and prevent further damage while it would have been easy to do so.
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PostSubject: Re: What is this stuff and how do I remove it? (paint)   Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:22 am

lamune wrote:


If I were carrying around a small black hole it might be visible from passers-by,

er,....pardon?
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PostSubject: Re: What is this stuff and how do I remove it? (paint)   Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:35 am

You need a lot of mass to bend light enough to make those seams and marks visible. Smile

Or you'd need to be going pretty close to the speed of light. I'd need a really, really big block to do that!

Having the rack off and being able to get in there and clean and wax the paint did wonders though, out in the rain the water is beading and rolling off nicely. It should be good for many years to come (I hope)
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PostSubject: Re: What is this stuff and how do I remove it? (paint)   Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:15 am

Anyway, back on topic. I was able to determine that the clear coat is damaged.

Nothing a repaint won't solve. Smile
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