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PostSubject: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 6:33 am

I have some new 6x9s in the rear that absolutely fall on their face with any bass whatsoever. I know they arent subs, but come on! Someone said if they arent sealed they are pretty much useless when it comes to any bass, will baffles help me? I also saw someone add some foam around the speakers to combat the rattling and also kind of box it in. (link to the foam idea http://www.butchthecat.com/94caprice/speakers.htm)
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 10:37 am

THese cars have rear speakers?? All the sound I get comes from the front doors.... Shocked

Seriously I've heard it's HARD to make the rear speakers sound good in the stock locations and mounts. Would like to hear what others have done though! My car stereo is all stock and eventually I plan to do something back there....but not anything drastic like a sub box.

The old boxy wagons had the speakers up high on both sides of the tail gate glass, firing forward into the passenger compartment. I put Pioneer 4x10's back there in my '89 Custom Cruiser. Had to cut some of the metal away to make the magnets fit, but once done the stock trim panels fit over those speakers and it looked factory but sounded a ton better.

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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 10:42 am

Easiest way? Get an amp. Put a 4 channel amp in the back and make it happen. My rear speakers sound GREAT.

It's the door speakers that suck.. for now. Ordered the Killer B 6.5 door pods, that'll wake things up. Smile

And Mike, ot all sub boxes are so drastic. :p Mine's only 5" deep and 300w RMS. You can be subtle and round out the sound easily, and cheaply.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 1:01 pm

Yes, the foam baffles do work. Put them in mine.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 4:06 pm

Thanks guys. I am an absolute idiot when it comes to car audio. I know very little. I would like to amp what I have though, just not sure which amp to get yadda yadda, gonna see if the stereo shop down the street has the baffles though. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 5:22 pm

It's really a lot simpler than people make it out to be.

What kind of speakers do you have? If you just have front door speakers and rear 6x9s, you'd need a simple 4 channel amp. Depending on what brands/speakers you have, 50x4 or 75x4 would probably be sufficient.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 6:43 pm

In the rear I have some Morel Maximo 6x9s in the front I have polk audio 4x6. I have no clue what power amp, channels blah blah to get haha. I was under the assumption Id need two amps for the two different power ranges for the speakers.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 7:05 pm

It depends on what their ratings are. You certainly can find a set that have the same power rating front and rear if you hunt, and WITHIN REASON, mind you, there is very little danger to giving your speakers more than they're intended for (case in point, my rear 6x9s are rated at 60W RMS, and I'm feeding them 75W RMS because that's just what I had lying on my shelf).

Car audio is fun, but gets expensive fast, so go in with a goal and a budget in mind, and all things can be done. I spent about ~$500 on my system, but my amp was free. It's decent enough to be clear and be felt IN the car, but won't rattle your bones or irritate your neighbors.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 7:07 pm

Stingroo wrote:
It's decent enough to be clear and be felt IN the car, but won't rattle your bones or irritate your neighbors.

I like irritating my neighbors Twisted Evil lol. Only on occasion though. My subs have the capacity to get VERY loud when I want them to.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 7:48 pm

The 4x6s are 40 continuous and the 6x9s are 100 continuous. Based on these numbers, what amp should I get. Keep it on the cheap side haha. I just want to make the most out of these speakers, Will worry about a sub and better front stage when I have more money.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeWed Feb 08, 2012 9:47 pm

Are you running a stock head unit or aftermarket? Most aftermarket head units have a small internal amp, which depending on the model used, might be enough for the front 2 speakers. Then you would only need to amp the 6x9s at 100 a piece
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 2:39 am

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_21773_Dual-XD6150.html aftermarket HU, nothing spectacular though.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 8:40 am

Yea, you'll need to amp both. Do you know what resistance your speakers are?
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 1:52 pm

I'm assuming you mean the Ohms? If so, 4 Ohms.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 2:01 pm

All 4 of them? If so it might be best to get 2 amps, just because you have such a large difference in the power requirements of the speakers. Look on craigslist. You can probably find some good ones for pretty cheap, since you aren't looking for a lot of power. Otherwise, you can try a 4 channel that puts out around 75w per channel at 4 ohms, but you run the risk of blowing both pairs of speakers. You might be fine, but you won't really know until you get a problem. My guess is you'll probably be okay, but it's really hard to say.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 2:01 pm

Resistance, impedance, ohms, yeah all the same. Smile

Shouldn't be too hard to power those. I'd look for more powerful front speakers, personally, but hey.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 2:05 pm

Sting, maybe you could answer this. Someone recommended I should look for 4'' speakers, something about the round speakers being better than the 4x6 plates? They also recommended some jeep adapter plates to convert the 4x6 to 4...have you ever used these?
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 2:10 pm

4" would probably sound a little better, but the 6.5" from a RMW w/ Concert Sound II would sound better. The buckets in the RMW will fit right into the 4x6 slot. The problem is finding a speaker that will fit into the bucket that doesn't have too large of a magnet. There is a thread on here about this.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 2:12 pm

The search for speakers can be made easier if you don't mind trimming some of the metal around the speaker slot in the door. If you don't mind doing that, you shouldn't have much of a problem finding good 6.5" speakers that would fit.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 2:20 pm

The RMS door bucket thing is 6.75" I think, and if you want a speaker to fit those, I just bought these:

http://www.amazon.com/PowerBass-S-675-6-75-Inch-Coaxial-Speaker/dp/B001JT3QKC/ref=lh_ni_t

Just measure and see what you want. An alternative, what I'm doing, is these:

http://www.customspeakerpods.com/Front-Door-Speaker-Pods-for-65-Speakers-GM-00-00-01-A.htm

I like the look, plus it'll sound better than being in the door.

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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 2:24 pm

I am liking those door panels, but 65 bucks a piece will take me a bit to budget it. Those would make it so much easier lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 2:27 pm

$65 for a pair. Smile

I know you could easily make your own for less, but these are so easy. cut your panel a bit to run the wires, screw into door, done.


I can't wait for mine to arrive. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 2:29 pm

Your best (cheapest) bet, is to find a set of speaker buckets from a RMW w/Concert Sound II in a junkyard somewhere. The thread discussing the speakers that will work (without cutting) and what you may need to do if you choose a speaker with a larger magnet is here:

http://gmlongroof.4umer.com/t5483p20-i-wonder-why-i-bother-but-want-new-front-door-speakers-in-the-95-rmw
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 2:37 pm

oh nice! I thought they were 65 a piece. I might just hold out until I can get these things.
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 6:31 pm

Stingroo wrote:
Just measure and see what you want. An alternative, what I'm doing, is these:

http://www.customspeakerpods.com/Front-Door-Speaker-Pods-for-65-Speakers-GM-00-00-01-A.htm

I like the look, plus it'll sound better than being in the door.


That's pretty cool. It's exactly how my door speaker and tweeter were set and located in all my mid-90's Bonnevilles, and those sounded really good!!
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PostSubject: Re: Do baffles in the rear help?   Do baffles in the rear help? Icon_minitimeThu Feb 09, 2012 6:34 pm

Yeah I can't wait for them to get here. The speakers came from Amazon Prime so they've been here since Monday tormenting me!


Rrrrgh....
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