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PostSubject: What's a good solid hitch ?   What's a good solid hitch ? Icon_minitimeTue Aug 06, 2013 4:52 pm

I want something that really gets in good on the frame
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PostSubject: Re: What's a good solid hitch ?   What's a good solid hitch ? Icon_minitimeTue Aug 06, 2013 9:51 pm

Curiousnapper wrote:
I want something that really gets in good on the frame

try searching this forum,. lots of good info,


Nick
is it just me??
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PostSubject: Re: What's a good solid hitch ?   What's a good solid hitch ? Icon_minitimeTue Aug 06, 2013 10:08 pm

Hitches come in different flavours depending on capacity. A Class I is a light duty hitch -- so light I doubt any were ever sold for these cars. Often referred to as a "bumper hitch", the 2,000lb rating limits them to hauling small like a single garden tractor or snowmobile. These are usually little more than a heavy piece of steel flatbar bolted to the underside of the bumper with a small diameter ball -- no more than 1-7/8" diameter.

A Class II hitch is still pretty light, rated 3,500lbs, suitable for a utility trailer or runabout boat -- generally most single-axle trailers. These are often still supported by the bumper, but have some connection to the frame to take the tugging. They can be a fixed tongue or they may be a receiver with removable ball platform. Older removable designs were often heavy (3/4" x 2") flatbar similar to a Class I, newer ones are usually 1-1/4" x 1-1/4" square but a few are 2" x 2", mimicking a Class III/IV. However, 2" x 2" Class II receivers are shorter and will not accept the longer ball platforms of the III/IV weight class.

A Class III gets you into double axle trailers and up to the max weight you would want to haul with a non-tow pack car -- 5,000lbs. These are frame mounted hitches -- any connection to the bumper is coincidental. This is what I consider to be the minimum acceptable hitch for these cars. Unfortunately, they are no longer made. A few people have lucked into NOS units left over from the heyday. A few other people have modified a sedan hitch to fit the wagon. Mostly people search the boneyards for a good used one. I do know that the same hitch for a 1983 Buick Electra Estate Wagon will fit a 92 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon perfectly with no modifications. Do a search on this forum for "class III hitch" and see all the posts about this issue.

A Class IV is a serious hitch that can handle more than the rated capacity of a tow pack car with weight distributing hitch. According to the manual, a tow pack car with weight distributing hitch can haul 7,500 lbs. A Class IV hitch is rated up to 10,000 lbs, and to achieve that is almost always weight-distributing. They use the same 2" x 2" receiver as the Class III and are often labelled "Class III/IV" -- up to 5,000lbs when coupled with a weight-carrying ball platform and up to 10,000lbs when used with a weight distributing platform and bars. Which is not to say you can haul 10,000 lbs with a Class III just by using a weight distributing platform and bars -- the receiver and attachment to the car must be able to handle that load too! Again, sadly: no longer made. Unless you make your own, like I did. (Have a look at the second page in the "What can I tow?" thread.)
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PostSubject: Re: What's a good solid hitch ?   What's a good solid hitch ? Icon_minitimeTue Aug 06, 2013 11:25 pm

buickwagon wrote:
Again, sadly: no longer made. Unless you make your own, like I did. (Have a look at the second page in the "What can I tow?" thread.)

Dang I knew there's be a catch. Thanks for the lengthy reply, you helped a lot.
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PostSubject: Re: What's a good solid hitch ?   What's a good solid hitch ? Icon_minitimeWed Aug 07, 2013 10:39 pm

Curiousnapper wrote:
buickwagon wrote:
Again, sadly: no longer made. Unless you make your own, like I did. (Have a look at the second page in the "What can I tow?" thread.)

Dang I knew there's be a catch. Thanks for the lengthy reply, you helped a lot.

 Lengthy replies are all he knows!
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PostSubject: Re: What's a good solid hitch ?   What's a good solid hitch ? Icon_minitimeWed Aug 07, 2013 10:55 pm

Putting the word "HITCH" in the search box came up with about twenty hits that might have some info for you

More than once , I've heard the chassis on our beasts is the same, unchanged from the "Boxie" era. So I'd wonder (without proof) that if you can find a Boxie in a bone yard with a good hitch, would it likely fit the 91-96 era wagons as well?


NOTE ALL THE WEASEL WORDS I'M USING, because I am replying in question only on hearsay with question, not with anything I can backup with established fact or personally  known by me with certainty. Hopefully someone here has already made that swap and can reply with confidence.
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PostSubject: Re: What's a good solid hitch ?   What's a good solid hitch ? Icon_minitimeWed Aug 07, 2013 11:10 pm

lakeffect wrote:
Hopefully someone here has already made that swap and can reply with confidence.

Paragraph 3, sentence 8 in the "lengthy post". Very Happy 

I bought a Class IV Algonquin Hidden Hitch 1n 1984 and installed it on my 1983 Electra Estate Wagon. Nine years later, I transferred it to my 92 Roadmaster Estate Wagon. I also transferred the 3rd row seats. (I got a great deal on the 92 because it was ordered with the 3rd row delete and nobody else wanted it). Both were direct bolt-ins with no modifications whatsoever.
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PostSubject: Re: What's a good solid hitch ?   What's a good solid hitch ? Icon_minitimeWed Aug 07, 2013 11:22 pm

There ya go. I caught that, but was also thinking it wouldn't likely matter if you find a boxie Caprice with one, as it's still the same chassis for all the GM lineup. Sorry I wasn't clear on that.

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PostSubject: Re: What's a good solid hitch ?   What's a good solid hitch ? Icon_minitimeThu Aug 08, 2013 3:21 pm

The problem with searches is so many of the items are no longer made.

I tried googling all the the parts numbers for the hitches and no-go.

But thanks to some help I am on the right path now.
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