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BigBlackBeaSSt

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PostSubject: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSun 1 Feb 2015 - 22:52

I received a bearing rebuild kit for Christmas giving me the gump'shun to by the 4.56 gears I have been wanting. I also bought mtrhead79's old wagon axle so I have one to build.

Step one (done): strip the assembly check axles (they look good)

Step two: paint or powdercoat the axle (let the jokes begin) - Getting a price on Monday for powdercoating

Step three: brakes.....

Ok going one of two directions. Depending what I can find parts, I would like to do this:

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http://www.goldsswagon.com/WagonDiscs/WagonDiscs.htm

But if I cannot find 9C1 or Impala SS brakes for the rear I will keep the rear drum brakes for now and just rebuild.

More to come!
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeMon 2 Feb 2015 - 21:08

Located a set of calipers, backing plates, etc. Hope to get them on Wednesday. Ordered the control arm bushings. So with those the project is under way.
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeMon 2 Feb 2015 - 23:05

warning; these rear projects can get out off hand. next thing the body comes off Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeTue 3 Feb 2015 - 5:43

mtrhead79 wrote:
warning; these rear projects can get out off hand. next thing the body comes off Rolling Eyes
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I was thinking the same thing as I read your post,took me a while to clean up the mess from laughing with a mouthful of soda!
LMAO
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeTue 3 Feb 2015 - 9:50

Flasheroo wrote:
mtrhead79 wrote:
warning; these rear projects can get out off hand. next thing the body comes off Rolling Eyes
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I was thinking the same thing as I read your post,took me a while to clean up the mess from laughing with a mouthful of soda!
LMAO

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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeThu 5 Feb 2015 - 21:37

So John went with me last night as we picked up the backing plates, calipers and such. I stopped at the shop that built my motor and they can open up the backing plates for me. Maybe I will get to this tomorrow. Powder coating quotes are coming in high so I believe I will be paining it.
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSat 14 Feb 2015 - 14:52

I dropped the axle housing off at my machine shop and he is opening up the backing plates to fit the wagon axle.

- Ordered the e-brake boot and SS brake lines from Bill Harper
- Got bushings for rear and removed bushing from axle and upper control arms.
- Found a local powder coated who will do the axle for a reasonable price - BONUS!!
- Calipers from first source were junk - pistons are shot
- Ordered a set from ebay used they are in good shape and apart and cleaned up for coating
- Ordered all hardware, caliper re-build kits, new e brake cables, etc
- Ordered Stealth Brake Bolt kit

I looked at getting UMI instant center brackets for the rear. Anyone every install these?

As soon as my machine shop gets the backing plates done I can start mocking every thing up and get it all ready for the powdercoater.
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSun 22 Feb 2015 - 22:09

Not sure if you are still wanting to look into powder coating the axle.
Check your local prison. I have one near me that will powder coat just about anything!
The prison will clean it all up, and prep it for powder coating.
They do an excellent job and will do it just above the cost of the material.

Give it a shot, could never hurt.

Our local prison also has a "prison shop" that you can buy all sort of crud from. Fresh baked bread, hay, paintings.....pretty cool actually. It helps the prisoners with some extra spending cash and also helps them find a trade.
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeWed 25 Feb 2015 - 19:49

It does not look like PA prisons do this. I did find a local guy who will do it within my budget.
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeMon 9 Mar 2015 - 14:46

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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeMon 9 Mar 2015 - 15:56

Ohh....yeah! bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSat 21 Mar 2015 - 20:39

So I picked up the axle from the powder coater today. Test fitting the e brakes.
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSun 22 Mar 2015 - 8:56

Looks nice! Are the shoes powder coated too or just painted?
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSun 22 Mar 2015 - 13:46

sswagon wrote:
Looks nice! Are the shoes powder coated too or just painted?

The shoes are an enhanced rust finish.
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSun 22 Mar 2015 - 15:08

i did not know that u wore shoes in that garage
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSun 22 Mar 2015 - 15:15

i would get a diff gasket and mock up what it covers you will have to do a little paint work. the powder coater taped alittle to much off. no biggie
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSun 22 Mar 2015 - 15:17

mtrhead79 wrote:
i did not know that u wore shoes in that garage

How do you know that was me?

mtrhead79 wrote:
i would get a diff gasket and mock up what it covers you will have to do a little paint work. the powder coater taped alittle to much off. no biggie

You scare me!!
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Slow going as I am traveling far to much. Hope to install on the 7-8th of next month.
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeThu 16 Apr 2015 - 23:31

Axle turned out great,could you measure the axle tube diameter for me?
Thank You
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Pretty much together
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PostSubject: Nice work Tim!   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeFri 17 Apr 2015 - 22:06

Looks great...can't wait to see it in the Not Rod.
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSat 18 Apr 2015 - 10:29

Real nice attention to detail.
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSun 19 Apr 2015 - 13:36

coming along nicely
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AWESOME JOB!
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeFri 1 May 2015 - 13:42

Thanks all. If all goes well 200OZ and I will be testing it out next weekend!
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSat 9 May 2015 - 10:23

Thumbs up for the sway bar mount!
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSun 10 May 2015 - 10:49

First off thank you to 200OZ, this job would have taken me much much longer if I could have done it at all.  Sorry about the powder coat issues, that cost you the first drive.  I owe you huge!

Thursday evening we did the tear out.  Friday we had it all back together and just needed to fill the brake fluid. We spliced in the rear portion of the brake hard line from under the firewall all the way back.  They were in rough shape on top of the frame.We used that soft line for the brakes (alloy).  Worked like a charm with Mike flaring the ends.  Saturday am we installed he stealth bolt/metering rod mod and started to gravity bleed the system.  Snuck to two of my local yards and pulled so minivan parts for Mike.

As we attempted to bleed the system we quick discovered an issue.  My powder coat guy put powder on the soft hose mating surface.  Long story short, we could not use my coated calipers.  Also my sway bar mounts hit the exhaust so I had to trim and touch up right some paint.  But we got her done!

Conclusion:  The brakes work amazing, car stops flatter than ever, Corners flatter, e-brake works better and most importantly 1st gear & reverse starts are MUCH easier on the clutch.
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PostSubject: Way to go Tim!   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeSun 10 May 2015 - 12:06

Looks fantastic. Can't wait to see it in person. Hope you enjoy the new driving experience...poor rear tires Smile

Now we need a big smokey burnout Twisted Evil video
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No ready to beat on it just yet
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PostSubject: Re: Another rear axle project   Another rear axle project Icon_minitimeWed 13 May 2015 - 8:47

Well it sucked not being able to use the sweet lookin' red calipers on the car, but thankfully Tim is well stocked with extra parts so we could get the job done.... Almost anyway. I missed the ride/drive by about 2 hours Mad. Oh well, it was good hanging out with Tim for a few days playing with the wagon. And I learned that you could make a "bubble" flare with std. double flare tools, who knew.... Apparently some hillbillies on Youtube. Thanks for everything bro.
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^ Yup, just flip it over. haha
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