Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol)
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94Woody
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brokecello Moderator
Posts : 3478 Join date : 2009-05-28 Age : 46 Location : Greenville, SC
Subject: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Sat May 08, 2010 9:13 pm
The Summit headers fit very nicely. (except for the AC lines..lol) I used the Earls gaskets and I know these things are sealed Not bad for $200 headers.
All the plugs and plug wires fit fine (still fiddling with placement) but a couple of plugs on each side will be a PITA to change once the fenders are on. heh
You can tell I cut off the little frame braces too. I'll post up more once the AC lines are in...if that is possible. (which I hope) If not, anyone want to buy a new "reman" AC compressor? .
Krzdimond Admin
Posts : 3412 Join date : 2008-11-04 Age : 57 Location : Savannah, GA
Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Sat May 08, 2010 10:12 pm
There is a place I pass daily by the name of "Savannah Auto Air". I understand that they do custom work. the AC is the ONLY reason I haven't installed my headers. I need to go by there on Monday.... I'll ask then and let you know.
brokecello Moderator
Posts : 3478 Join date : 2009-05-28 Age : 46 Location : Greenville, SC
Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Sat May 08, 2010 10:14 pm
Krzdimond wrote:
There is a place I pass daily by the name of "Savannah Auto Air". I understand that they do custom work. the AC is the ONLY reason I haven't installed my headers. I need to go by there on Monday.... I'll ask then and let you know.
Robert...if they can do custom lines...please let me know! I will drive down (heck you are only 3 hours or so from me right?) Perhaps I can help you with your install too
Krzdimond Admin
Posts : 3412 Join date : 2008-11-04 Age : 57 Location : Savannah, GA
Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Sat May 08, 2010 10:24 pm
More like 4.5 hours ( it's 2 hours from here to the 26/77 interchange in Columbia)
I'll let you know on Monday
brokecello Moderator
Posts : 3478 Join date : 2009-05-28 Age : 46 Location : Greenville, SC
Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Sat May 08, 2010 11:18 pm
Gotcha. I can be in Columbia in 2 hours (or under) if traffic is good. Well, let me know. Honestly, if they can make the hardline section (from where the rubber hose ends to where you bolt up to the AC compressor) just rubber or braided stainless....it would work fine.
I do plan to buy some of the velcro heat shielding/wrap to protect the lines.
If you go this route (Summit or Afterburners) I would recommend smaller headed header bolts. The ones that came with the headers worked, but would be a pain to tighten if the fenders were on the car. You have to do them all with a wrench, by hand. The ones I used with the Tri-Y install (came with) had a smaller head and I rigged up a special wrench to easily tighten.
Hope that makes sense.
Oh, also....I had to loosen the transmission dipstick bracket (bolt in the back of the head) and shove the engine harness up and out of the way. You have to do this to have some wrench room to tighten that very back header bolt.
Piece of cake on the drivers side.
I did bring BOTH sides of the headers up from the BOTTOM. I did not want to try from the top as it might scratch up the finish a bit.
Bewber
Posts : 1583 Join date : 2009-01-07 Location : The eight one oh
Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Sun May 09, 2010 12:25 am
Before you pay for custom fabbed up stuff - aren't you going to at least try to impose your will upon the ones you already have?
brokecello Moderator
Posts : 3478 Join date : 2009-05-28 Age : 46 Location : Greenville, SC
Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Sun May 09, 2010 7:35 am
Bewber wrote:
Before you pay for custom fabbed up stuff - aren't you going to at least try to impose your will upon the ones you already have?
Oh, I have been trying. Still have not ruined them...yet...but prob won't take much to do so.
94Woody
Posts : 2438 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Sun May 09, 2010 10:03 am
The front primary looks just the one on my Afterburners. Little hard to explain how to bend them but this what they look like when finished.
I cracked mine slightly because I didn't brace the correct portion while bending. I did install a set on an Impala without busting the lines and his AC still works.
phantom 309
Posts : 5848 Join date : 2008-12-28 Age : 114
Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Sun May 09, 2010 6:53 pm
allen head socket bolts are the easiset to install,..
Nick
toomanytoyz
Posts : 3233 Join date : 2008-11-04 Age : 48 Location : Sandown, NH USA
Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Sun May 09, 2010 8:54 pm
Those look great, Chris!
I thought I told you to get the 3/4" long, ARP 5/16" head, 12 point, header bolts? Those make it a snap!
I still haven't gotten anything done with my AC lines. Sorry!
94Woody
Posts : 2438 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Sun May 09, 2010 10:15 pm
toomanytoyz wrote:
...get the 3/4" long, ARP 5/16" head, 12 point, header bolts? Those make it a snap!
Yes they do.
Wagon Collector
Posts : 318 Join date : 2008-12-31
Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Mon May 10, 2010 12:54 pm
Nice! was it absolutely necessary to cut those frame brackets, or did you do it for looks/ease of installation? I was under the impression that removing these wasn't mandatory.
Also, are you re-programming your PCM for the EGR bypass? If so, what are you doing? I can only seem to find threads where folks sent their PCM out to get done. I'd like to know the specifics since I run a bastardized program (I think I'm on revision "n").
This'll be ready for Wagonfest, yes?
phantom 309
Posts : 5848 Join date : 2008-12-28 Age : 114
Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Mon May 10, 2010 8:07 pm
in the programming,switch egr function off,..needs to be richened slightly for part throttle cruise,. etc,.
Nick
brokecello Moderator
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Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Mon May 10, 2010 9:32 pm
Yeah, I have a program edited by a friend that I will upload via AKM cable (I am doing the OBD I conversion too) So I am not a program guy! I use what flashes I get! lol
You can see where I marked the path of the frame braces (you can still see where they were mounted) No way will it work on the driver's side. Passenger side might work. They came off easily with a Dremel and 2 lil cutoff wheels. Once you start, it goes like budda.
I know 94Woody had no problems with his Afterburners and the braces. I am glad to have the room to work without them anyhow. I hear they are really only for dampening vibration. With the wussy welds and weak metal, I doubt these things were adding any significant structural benefits.
toomanytoyz
Posts : 3233 Join date : 2008-11-04 Age : 48 Location : Sandown, NH USA
Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Mon May 10, 2010 9:37 pm
That last pic will last a lifetime.
Krzdimond Admin
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Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Mon May 10, 2010 10:39 pm
savannah auto air sai that they will custom fab both lines up under the accumulator for about $150 and they need the original lines. should ake about an hour to do
brokecello Moderator
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Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Mon May 10, 2010 11:20 pm
Yeah, looking at the Afterburners...they clear a mile wide. These Summit ones will not clear. You can see from his pic. Design is not quite the same.
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brokecello Moderator
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Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Mon May 10, 2010 11:22 pm
Krzdimond wrote:
savannah auto air sai that they will custom fab both lines up under the accumulator for about $150 and they need the original lines. should ake about an hour to do
Oh, that is good! I will think on that!! Do they do braided stainless?
brokecello Moderator
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Subject: Re: Summit Headers. Install complete except for AC lines (lol) Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:49 pm
Ok, little update here. Love the headers. Still no AC though. lol
Here is a "drive under" to see (and hear) the exhaust setup. Yeah, I see the trans cooler line is leaking a touch. Gonna go back to the carport and fix that. Always something