Posts : 3371 Join date : 2008-11-05 Age : 75 Location : Littleton, NH & St. Simons, GA
Subject: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:47 pm
I knew I should have stayed off of CraigsList. Cruising around CL and what pops up in front of me is a 94 Fleetwood from FL, tucked away in VT. No vinyl top, and only 91K. I called the resident B & D hoarder, CT Dave. As Dave has 14 B & D's, at last count, he's probably not the guy I should be calling asking if I should buy it. Actually I had pretty much made up my mind. Dave said look up the VI# and check if it has an "R1P" code, commercial chassis etc.. He said it probably doesn't. It did, now I'm really salivating.
Gave it a good look over, body and interior in very good shape. Engine ran good. Drove it home, no issues. Did notice a bearing noise coming from the rear, not that big of a deal. Needs a few trinkets, but plenty of potential.
Tom
Here she is.
RedandBlack
Posts : 564 Join date : 2016-01-19
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:31 am
That's an awesome find!
r67northern
Posts : 130 Join date : 2010-09-05 Location : North Louisiana
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:53 am
Looks great, nice find indeed
94Woody
Posts : 2442 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:04 pm
Nice find. Would be perfect if it wasn't White
silverfox103 Moderator
Posts : 3371 Join date : 2008-11-05 Age : 75 Location : Littleton, NH & St. Simons, GA
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:08 pm
Thanks boys! All in all pretty happy with it. Right off the bat, the owner told me how much his wife disliked it. I knew by that he would take less than what he was asking, and he did.
94Woody wrote:
Nice find. Would be perfect if it wasn't White
Even though it's white, I had to look the other way as it didn't have a vinyl top.
Tom
Andebe
Posts : 3323 Join date : 2013-02-20 Age : 55 Location : Centerville, IN
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:45 am
Score!
convert2diesel
Posts : 958 Join date : 2009-01-05 Age : 72 Location : Manotick, Ontario
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:22 am
Congrats. A commercial caddy is a real find. Check out the colour of the seat cushion. If it's green you now have the most comfortable seat of all the B and D cars.
Bill
silverfox103 Moderator
Posts : 3371 Join date : 2008-11-05 Age : 75 Location : Littleton, NH & St. Simons, GA
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:20 pm
Thanks Bill
Actually, I had the passenger seat apart to have some leather repaired. Was the usual yellow color foam w/ blue leather.
Tom
Sprocket
Posts : 6141 Join date : 2008-11-04 Location : Palm Beach County
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:30 pm
Nice. Ok so I feel dumb, what is the difference with it being a commercial chassis?
silverfox103 Moderator
Posts : 3371 Join date : 2008-11-05 Age : 75 Location : Littleton, NH & St. Simons, GA
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:37 pm
Heavy duty radiator and additional cooling for trans and power steering. I believe it is a heavier frame, suspension, 4 air shock, a heavy duty rear end and HD breaks.
John, until a month, I didn't know anything about them either. Dave from CT, told me to check the sticker in the trunk for R1P code; which it had and it says Commercial Chassis.
Still Learning
Any updates on what ales your wagon?
Tom
silverfox103 Moderator
Posts : 3371 Join date : 2008-11-05 Age : 75 Location : Littleton, NH & St. Simons, GA
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:35 pm
convert2diesel wrote:
Congrats. A commercial caddy is a real find. Check out the colour of the seat cushion. If it's green you now have the most comfortable seat of all the B and D cars.
Bill
I just looked at the build sheet and it has an entry for heavy duty seat, maybe it does have what your are talking about:
A75 SPRING,SEAT FRONT,CUSHION AND BACK,HEAVY DUTY HVY DUTY FRT ST(A75)
Tom
goldwolfnhn
Posts : 328 Join date : 2019-07-11 Location : Stevens Point, Wisconsin
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:08 pm
what does the frame look like under the door area on your fleetwoods, as last month we had one come in for an oil change at where I work and I noticed that while it had the full frame the part that was under the doors was open, more like a conventional u channel frame rather then fully boxed.
The reason I'm asking is because both my 94 rmw and my 87 Pontiac Safari have fully boxed frames identical to each other but neither one has the commercial code or anything extra about the chassis, other then the tow package on my 94. So I was just wondering if the u channel section was for the normal non commercial chassis fleetwoods or maybe it's the other way around as all the metal lines on that Fleetwood where tucked into the frame instead of exposed under the floorboard.
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:31 am
Awesome find Tom. We can now start calling you the Cadillac Man. Oh and keep looking at Craigslist all you want...if you don't buy feel free to send leads my way
Hope all is well with you and yours and that your ready for Santa's visit.
94Woody
Posts : 2442 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:23 pm
goldwolfnhn wrote:
what does the frame look like under the door area on your fleetwoods, as last month we had one come in for an oil change at where I work and I noticed that while it had the full frame the part that was under the doors was open, more like a conventional u channel frame rather then fully boxed.
The reason I'm asking is because both my 94 rmw and my 87 Pontiac Safari have fully boxed frames identical to each other but neither one has the commercial code or anything extra about the chassis, other then the tow package on my 94. So I was just wondering if the u channel section was for the normal non commercial chassis fleetwoods or maybe it's the other way around as all the metal lines on that Fleetwood where tucked into the frame instead of exposed under the floorboard.
Not sure about the Cadillac but on 91-96 B bodies only the wagon has a boxed frame.
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:38 pm
i know you didn't mention what you paid for it but it looks like a good one
monwell
Posts : 58 Join date : 2018-06-25
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:25 am
Great find, indeed! Good luck fixing it.
68JCode
Posts : 71 Join date : 2017-11-03
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:24 am
convert2diesel wrote:
Congrats. A commercial caddy is a real find. Check out the colour of the seat cushion. If it's green you now have the most comfortable seat of all the B and D cars.
Bill
Just wanted to follow up on Bills quote about the seat cushion color - what makes the green foam special. I am looking for ways to improve the comfort of my Caprice seats. The drivers seat at the very least has some very broken down foam, possibly more structural issues.
And that Caddy is definitely a great find!
Thanks,
Andrew
convert2diesel
Posts : 958 Join date : 2009-01-05 Age : 72 Location : Manotick, Ontario
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:40 pm
68JCode wrote:
Just wanted to follow up on Bills quote about the seat cushion color - what makes the green foam special. I am looking for ways to improve the comfort of my Caprice seats. The drivers seat at the very least has some very broken down foam, possibly more structural issues.
And that Caddy is definitely a great find!
Thanks,
Andrew
Andrew:
The green foam is denser than the tan coloured cushions in your Caprice. The "Livery" optioned cars (funeral cars, limos, etc) typically had the green foam as it was more durable and didn't break down as quickly. The only downside, was the seat covers and the moldings were different so its not just a direct trade to make your current seats better. You also have to use the seat covers that came with the foam.
The best route is to hit your local pick and pull checking for the green foam and swap out both front seats.
Bill
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68JCode
Posts : 71 Join date : 2017-11-03
Subject: Re: CraigsList and another moment of weakness Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:27 am
Interesting - thanks for the quick response!
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