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| Engine doesn´t crack, lights are burning, no Battery issue | |
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BuickRM
Posts : 146 Join date : 2016-02-06 Location : Germany
| Subject: Engine doesn´t crack, lights are burning, no Battery issue Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:21 am | |
| Guys, recently my wife wanted to start the engine after work to go home, it didn´t crank any more, but the dash lights didn´t get weak when operating the key, but the starter didn´t crank the engine. So it seems not to be the battery, I went to pick her up, and when I tried to start the engine it did immediately. I don´t think that it was a sign of respect to a man, maybe a demo effect ....I don´t know. But what I want to discuss is the reason of the malfunction. May it be the ignition switch or the solenoid switch of the starter motor ? Are there any issues known with these parts to be prone to crack? Is something to analyse with the ignition switch, any contact issues? I don´t trust to let her go with the car with a clear concience....thanks for advices ! | |
| | | Bucky53
Posts : 32 Join date : 2020-12-30 Location : Central NC
| Subject: Re: Engine doesn´t crack, lights are burning, no Battery issue Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:24 pm | |
| Did she trigger the key fault by chance. Once I turned the key on and then off real quick and I got to sit there for a few minutes until it reset. Did you use your key and she used her well worn key by any chance. Maybe she wasn't in park or neutral. | |
| | | goldwolfnhn
Posts : 328 Join date : 2019-07-11 Location : Stevens Point, Wisconsin
| Subject: Re: Engine doesn´t crack, lights are burning, no Battery issue Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:19 pm | |
| to me it sounds like the starter might be starting to go bad if it's never been replaced, my 86 crew cab dually does that now and then, I turn the key and get nothing or I just get a click like a dead battery but then I cycle the ignition a couple more times and the starter suddenly starts working again and the ignition switch tested out fine. | |
| | | Sprocket
Posts : 6140 Join date : 2008-11-04 Location : Palm Beach County
| Subject: Re: Engine doesn´t crack, lights are burning, no Battery issue Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:43 am | |
| - BuickRM wrote:
- Guys, recently my wife wanted to start the engine after work to go home, it didn´t crank any more, but the dash lights didn´t get weak when operating the key, but the starter didn´t crank the engine. So it seems not to be the battery, I went to pick her up, and when I tried to start the engine it did immediately. I don´t think that it was a sign of respect to a man, maybe a demo effect ....I don´t know. But what I want to discuss is the reason of the malfunction. May it be the ignition switch or the solenoid switch of the starter motor ? Are there any issues known with these parts to be prone to crack? Is something to analyse with the ignition switch, any contact issues? I don´t trust to let her go with the car with a clear concience....thanks for advices !
from what you describe it was the VATS (vehicle Anti-theft system). Assuming the car is a 1994-96 otherwise this doesn't apply to the older ones. There is a pellet resistor in the key, it is read and if the resistance value is read out of range, the car is disabled from starting for about 3-5 minutes and the PASS KEY light lights up. when the light goes out, you can try again. I have had the issue on at lease 3 mid 90s GM cars (two of my wagons and on my Mom's '96 Camaro. you can measure the key with a meter and splice a resistor inline (cheap and easy) solution and the problem should go away. I've done it that way on all of the ones I had issues and the problem is gone. You can also program it out of the PCM, via a new tune. (about $100 or so) vs. $1.00 for a resistor or two. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]This article was for a different car, but basically outlines the steps to take. searching on F-body forums or B-Body forums will get the exact instructions. (at work and only a minute to look). Now if your car is a 91-93 , then it's a different issue | |
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