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 Engine doesn´t crack, lights are burning, no Battery issue

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BuickRM




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PostSubject: Engine doesn´t crack, lights are burning, no Battery issue   Engine doesn´t crack, lights are burning, no Battery issue Icon_minitimeSun Nov 14, 2021 11:21 am

Guys, recently my wife wanted to start the engine after work to go home, it didn´t crank any more, but the dash lights didn´t get weak when operating the key, but the starter didn´t crank the engine. So it seems not to be the battery,  I went to pick her up, and when I tried to start the engine it did immediately. I don´t think that it was a sign of respect to a man, maybe a demo effect ....I don´t know. But what I want to discuss is the reason of the malfunction. May it be the ignition switch or the solenoid switch of the starter motor ? Are there any issues known with these parts to be prone to crack? Is something to analyse with the ignition switch, any contact issues? I don´t trust to let her go with the car with a clear concience....thanks for advices !
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Did she trigger the key fault by chance. Once I turned the key on and then off real quick and I got to sit there for a few minutes until it reset. Did you use your key and she used her well worn key by any chance. Maybe she wasn't in park or neutral.
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to me it sounds like the starter might be starting to go bad if it's never been replaced, my 86 crew cab dually does that now and then, I turn the key and get nothing or I just get a click like a dead battery but then I cycle the ignition a couple more times and the starter suddenly starts working again and the ignition switch tested out fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Engine doesn´t crack, lights are burning, no Battery issue   Engine doesn´t crack, lights are burning, no Battery issue Icon_minitimeMon Nov 15, 2021 8:43 am

BuickRM wrote:
Guys, recently my wife wanted to start the engine after work to go home, it didn´t crank any more, but the dash lights didn´t get weak when operating the key, but the starter didn´t crank the engine. So it seems not to be the battery,  I went to pick her up, and when I tried to start the engine it did immediately. I don´t think that it was a sign of respect to a man, maybe a demo effect ....I don´t know. But what I want to discuss is the reason of the malfunction. May it be the ignition switch or the solenoid switch of the starter motor ? Are there any issues known with these parts to be prone to crack? Is something to analyse with the ignition switch, any contact issues? I don´t trust to let her go with the car with a clear concience....thanks for advices !

from what you describe it was the VATS (vehicle Anti-theft system).   Assuming the car is a 1994-96 otherwise this doesn't apply to the older ones.   There is a pellet resistor in the key, it is read and if the resistance value is read out of range, the car is disabled from starting for about 3-5 minutes and the PASS KEY light lights up.  when the light goes out, you can try again.

I have had the issue on at lease 3 mid 90s GM cars (two of my wagons and on my Mom's '96 Camaro.  

you can measure the key with a meter and splice a resistor inline (cheap and easy) solution and the problem should go away.  I've done it that way on all of the ones I had issues and the problem is gone.   You can also program it out of the PCM, via a new tune. (about $100 or so) vs. $1.00 for a resistor or two.

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This article was for a different car, but basically outlines the steps to take. searching on F-body forums or B-Body forums will get the exact instructions. (at work and only a minute to look).

Now if your car is a 91-93 , then it's a different issue
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