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PostSubject: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 12:45 pm

How much of a 'seat of the pants' increase, if any, do a set of 1.6 roller rockers add? Anyone? Found a screamin' deal on a new set and wanna pull the trigeer but haven't yet.
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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 1:18 pm

I've been told you'll feel it, but you wont' REALLY feel it until you upgrade the rear end to something like 3.73's.
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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 1:24 pm

See my 'wanted' add......hehehe!
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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 8:14 pm

It's not a huge SOTP increase. However, with new upgraded valvesprings you will definitely notice a huge improvement in the upper RPM.
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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 8:23 pm

You talkn' LT4 springs? The generic Z28 springs? Any reccomendations?
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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 8:31 pm

the LT4 springs are way too weak. Go with beehives (26915), patriot gold, or crane.

Crane:
ALUMINIUM CYLINDER HEADS:
Use 10308-1 Spring and Retainer Kit
Contains: Valve Springs 99893-16
Retainers 99951-16
Valve Locks 99097-1
Spring Shims 99050-1
IRON CYLINDER HEADS:
Use 10309-1 Spring and Retainer Kit
Contains: Valve Springs 99845-16
Retainers 99914-16
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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeMon Jan 09, 2012 8:46 pm

Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeTue Jan 10, 2012 7:41 am

Pull the trigger!
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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeThu Jan 12, 2012 7:39 am

As you install 1.6 rr on your iron heads be sure to check that you push rods clear, mine did not. Therefore I have 1.5 rr installed until I can switch heads.
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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeThu Jan 12, 2012 8:03 am

Tim was your pushrod slot too narrow?
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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeThu Jan 12, 2012 8:11 am

yes and I did not notice when I first installed. It was ticking a bit so I removed the valve covers and saw the wear on the pushrods. Then when I watched the re-install I saw the pushrods bend as I tightened the rr. Pulled them all off and went to a 1.5.

I have used Comp Cams Pro Magnums and Ultra Pro Mags but I have a set of the GM I am going to try if I ever get to do my heads!!
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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeThu Jan 12, 2012 12:59 pm

Tim, was this with a stock camshaft ? What springs and at what height had you installed them ?
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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeThu Jan 12, 2012 1:06 pm

jasonlachapelle wrote:
Tim, was this with a stock camshaft ? What springs and at what height had you installed them ?

what he said!! Shocked Shocked pushrods don't bend enough that it can be seen with the naked eye,. and if they do,.they don't have a memory so they stay bent,.


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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeThu Jan 12, 2012 1:11 pm

I have never heard of someone having problems with 1.6 on stock cam.
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PostSubject: Re: GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers....   GMPP 1.6 Roller Rockers.... Icon_minitimeTue Jul 17, 2012 7:54 am

Sorry I just noticed these responses.

I put a set of CM618 springs I bought used from RJI on the other forum. They were drop on springs so I did not measure height. It was a totally stock motor. When I first installed the 1.6rr I did not even look, but noticed they were noisier than usual. I removed the passenger side cover and began to play, I saw that as I tightened them the push rod bent to go into place in the rocker. There was some wear on the hardened push rods as well.
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