power vent windows

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It all started back when I first bought my 91 RMW, it was annoying not having power vent windows. I soon found out that it wasn't just my wagon, that GM never put power vent windows on these wagons........

Being the 78-83 Malibu guy that I am, I was in a salvage yard in Windsor Ontario about five years ago when I happened upon a fully loaded 1980 malibu classic sedan. It had rear power vent windows. I had to see how GM accomplished this some 11 years before my 91 was built. I thus began to take the vent window power assembly out of this old and abused 1980 malibu sedan. took them home in my 91 wagon. then placed them on the shelf in my garage for the better part of five years now, since the 91 lost it's rear vent windows I'm thinking that my 93 could use them.

I pulled the power vent window motors/assembly off the shelf and finally studied them and took apart the interior panels on my 93 and began to test fit and see if it could work.
after 40 minutes of work you can see what I've accomplished in the video in the first post in this thread.


this is the power vent window unit out of a 78-80 malibu/lemans sedan. as you can see the actual motor drives a long flexible shaft that allows it to be remotely mounted inside the lower quaters. the latch(lack of a better word) is mounted to the "D" pillar isn't much bigger than the manual latch it replaces.

this is the power latch protion of the assembly.

this is how it looks mounted inside the car, clean enough but you know I'm going to clean it up and make it look OEM.

I find that the windows are now more solidly mounted, then they were with the maual latch. I found them loose and they would rattle over rough roads when open, but not anymore....

I've not yet wired them in, I've only just mounted the assembly in place. they do seem to work fine when I direct powered them off the battery. I will mount the switches in my console infront of the shifter.

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here are the vent window switches mounted in the consol, they came out of a 93 riviera. I modified the blank plate in my console (an olds 88LSS) to mate up with the riv's window switches. I feel it's a very clean OEM look...




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I love it Pat. This car is not just going to be a wagon with a sedan nose on it. And I bet it will look like gm built it that way.

pat can you see about making power Mud Flaps for protection but hide away for shows. Just for ocd guys, I can probably find a market for them

lornejay1 wrote:

pat can you see about making power Mud Flaps for protection but hide away for shows. Just for ocd guys, I can probably find a market for them

How many sets do you think Frank would want?

Lorne would not a tape dispenser in side the rear side pocket be better suited for OCD members?

That is so cool, why didn't GM do that from the factory?

92 Woody Wagon wrote:

That is so cool, why didn't GM do that from the factory?

I don't know GM never put them into production, there are rumours of one or two wagons with them. Darius claims to have seen a 92 CC in a salvage yard that had them....

but in your 92 woody power fents would be out of place since you have them rare armstrong manual windows on all four doors! I thought that was so cool when I seen that!

Just bumped this one up since it was talked about alot at wagonfest09,

buickestate wrote:

Lorne would not a tape dispenser in side the rear side pocket be better suited for OCD members?

You might be on to something Pat, By the way I loved the flame joke on the other forum



I found my own way to keep the bugs off

lornejay1 wrote:

I loved the flame joke on the other forum

At least it did not leave you cold and stiff like your passengers....

Hey Pat can you restore all the links to the photos? Everything has been removed as of 10/18/2010 Did you change hosting services?

I'd love to see the pics too. And I sure wish my car had those!

lakeffect wrote:

Hey Pat can you restore all the links to the photos? Everything has been removed as of 10/18/2010 Did you change hosting services?

I moved pictures around in my photo bucket account sorry

That's SO COOL!

I'd never be able to pull it off though, even if I had the motors.

Awesome idea! Please be sure to post pictures of the final result.

it was completed in 2009, and won best mod at wagonfest 09

Wait,manual windows in a RMW now thats something of a rarity isnt it?When I was a kid we had a
73 Country Squire wagon and it had manual windows with power front vent windows and a power
back window.Dad bought it off the lot brand new that way and I always thought it was strange to this day.Pat your wagon is a real piece of art brought back from the rusty dead by a true artists
hand and any mods you do to it are sure to only make it more unique and special.
Take Care
Jim Gordon

hey Pat is the wagon still looking good? it's been 2 years since I seen it.

Yup looks good.

Ouch....

81X11 wrote:

Ouch....

what? did you injuryourself?

buickestate wrote:

81X11 wrote:

Ouch....

what? did you injuryourself?

Yep I fell of my chair when I saw your pic...

My Son's friend owns this 84 cutlass,and look what option it has.



Two switches on the drivers door,and I assume the back door switch also controls them.





It is an odd duck for options,full gauge package,yet no tilt wheel.

Air condition,rare for here back then,but no rear defrost.



Dollar store mirror.



Not sure if Shanahan has any significance,it isn't any dealership I have heard of,but O.Learys is the dealer.



I just wanted to show how they open,not the same way Pat has his hooked up.

I am grabbing them,I know someone on here will want them when that day comes.

Nice clean car! Weird to see a Brougham with no Sport mirrors or tilt.

The power vents are funny. Nice clean car...it's begging for painted or chrome Olds SSII wheels.

Thanks for posting! Love G-bodies!

-Mike

81X11 wrote:

Nice clean car...it's begging for painted or chrome Olds SSII wheels.



-Mike

I hear you Mike,but this 19 yer old has a MINT MINT 77 Bandit Trans Am,this is his winter beater.

Alberta has been good to them.

lornejay1 wrote:

81X11 wrote:

Nice clean car...it's begging for painted or chrome Olds SSII wheels.



-Mike

I hear you Mike,but this 19 yer old has a MINT MINT 77 Bandit Trans Am,this is his winter beater.

Alberta has been good to them.

Heck of a nice winter beater!

If this kids beater is this nice,Mike you have met your match buddy.This kid can keep his snow car this nice needs to write a book about how to detail in the winter.I would bet money that this car had never seen snow!

Wash 2-3 times a week. That's how you do it lol.

Well Hot diggity.  It appears that power rear quarter vent windows were indeed produced as a Police pack option for the Chevy Caprice only!  See PDF link below.  It is listed as a standard feature.  I have been gathering parts for a while to do the mod.  The only thing I am still on the hunt for is the elusive motors from the early 80's donor car that had the power vents.  I have the switches for front and the 3rd seat area along with a large array of window latch arraignments from various cars to ensure I will have the proper "reach" for when I go to install the motors.  It of course would be ideal to one day find a wagon with the set up already but I bet the chances are very, very rare that a wagon like that will pop up in my area.

http://ex-vtc.gotdns.com/downloads/brochures/92_1a2.pdf

I'd be surprised if that's actually true. Perhaps the marketing literature wound up not matching reality?

Doesn't make sense to spend time engineering/tooling/sourcing all the special components for that and not offering it on any other wagon variant.

Quote :

This catalog is not updated during the
model year and should not be used for
ordering purposes. It is intended as a
source of basic information. All illustra-
tions and specifications in this literature
are based on the latest product informa-
tion available at the time of publication.
The right is reserved to make changes
at any time without notice. For further
details, consul your local Chevrolet dealer
or the branch office covering your area.

I,ve only had 94 and 95 1a2's,(no tbi cars,.). never seen this option ever,.
i think it's urban legend.

Went through the labor to remove a Chrysler set from a 91 Mini Van.  They have the long 2 foot (3 feet on passenger side) cable to drive the regulators so the motors could be safely attached in the wells behind wheels.  They are now ruled out though.  The distance from mount position to hole in window is off by inches.  There is not a feasible way to shorten the stem distance on the regulators.  I am getting closer.

i have a set of vent window mtrs out of a pontiac g body wagon but they are driven from a rod not a cable

Yes. The rear doors vent windows had the option for power, but those are on a short cable or rod and push/pull the door vent window open or closed from the interior of the door panel. For the rear quarter windows in our wagons, we need a longer cable style so the motors can be concealed down behind the side wells. I looked at those g body motors in a yard and found they just would not work.

i have a jy that might have the mtrs but they are asking if i have a pic and if it is the little window on the door or the window on the quarter. these are the mtrs for the little window on the door is this correct? i can grab a pic of the car from auto trader or something like that. thanks for any help

Mtrhead....

The motors to do the power vent windows for our wagons come from the rear quarter windows. Not the wing vent window in the rear door. The motors are identical but the rear quarter set up has a very long cable. I may have located a set and am going to attempt the mod. If you ever find some, nab them as they are very rare at this point.

thanks for info, i thought that was right . i have been looking for yrs. this jy on line said they might have them we will see