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Fred Kiehl
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PostSubject: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeWed May 27, 2020 11:26 am

Hi, first things first. I need a pair of exh manifolds for my 5.0 in the '89 buick wagon, mine grew legs during the current overhaul. Anybody have a set you can part with? (the 2 outlet drivers side set)

I need to lose the air injection pump and associated hardware The tapped holes for the air injection manifold on the heads have been plugged. What do I need to know besides what I have done?

Thanks in advance,Wink
Paul
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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeWed May 27, 2020 7:53 pm

Get a set of headers. Heddman makes a set that fits Chevelles that will also fit your car. You will need to put a hump in the left side of your trans crossmember, and put duals on the car. It will have a good bit more power. The muffler mount from the right side will bolt to already existing holes on the rear crossmember. Relatively easy to do, or have done.
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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2020 8:58 am

I already have a custom dual exhuast, 2 in. flowmasters with crossovers, so I'm looking for as close a fit to the stock manifolds as possible. I think shorty headers would require the least work to install/hook up and not hang down much lower than the cast irons. (with the suspension mods I did, I'm already an inch or so closer to the ground)

Anybody have a brand and part number? I've arrested all the usual suspects, (headman,thorley,summit etc.) with out much luck. (carid asked for the VIN, on a 35 year old ride?,WTFO/)

I'm deleting the air injection anyway, so that will not be an issue. (good old "no smog" floriduh)
I'm not expecting a huge performance increase, but should see some efficiency (MPG) improvement with a .030" over bore, .020" head shave and 3 angle valve job. headers, tho not planned, will help I'm sure.

Any and all help graciously accepted...

Paul
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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2020 9:13 am

You can use any headers that fit a Chevelle. The rear plugs sometimes get blocked by the rear primary tube. I had to remove my starter to tighten #8. You must put an 90 deg. elbow on the oil pressure sensor to miss the #7 primary tube.
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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2020 2:52 pm

Thanks Fred, does anybody know, from experience, what application gives the best clearance? I really don't want to spend a couple hundred bucks and find I can't look at a plug without extreme measures.

Still holding out for a good used pair of stocker's.

Paul
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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2020 5:53 pm

In case Fred doesn't realize it: the 5.0 in redcaddy's wagon is a 307 OLDS engine.
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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2020 6:28 pm

Thanks Jay, you are, as usual, eggzackery correct.

Paul
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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2020 9:33 pm

I thought the whole line was switched to generic GM engines by 89.
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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeFri May 29, 2020 7:39 am

Fred, I'm the 3rd owner of this starship so I don't know fer sure, but the local machine shop, that did the work for me on this overhaul, told me that it is an OLDS motor with 7-A heads. At just over 100 K, it cracked a head (between the valves) $2600.00 later, I'm bolting the heads back on and filling the hole.

Anybody know what the block number series should be, I'll look it up, and we will know fer sure.

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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeFri May 29, 2020 10:12 am

Fred Kiehl wrote:
I thought the whole line was switched to generic GM engines by 89.

Well, the 307 Olds was a "generic GM engine" then. And all boxy wagons got them in the late 80s.
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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeFri May 29, 2020 10:32 am

Back in the day, during the conversion to corporate GM engines from brand specific builds, there was even a lawsuit filed from "higher" brand owners in regards to what was called the use of "Chevrolet" engines in their vehicles. IIRC, they even won.
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Welp, all I know is that the question was decided at a very high, uninvolved level, no good came of it and the corporation got to steal more tax dollars to share with the executives.

I just spent a bunch of money on an obsolete mode of transportation, that I happen to enjoy very much. I don't give a good god damn what engine it had installed at the factory, I just want to put the correct parts in it and continue to drive it, hopefully, 'till I'm dead. (it's OK, I'm old)

Still looking for a pair of manifolds or a number for shorty headers...
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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeThu Jun 04, 2020 9:37 am

Crickets? X 4 days. really? Did I miss the bus?

Paul in Venice
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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeThu Jun 04, 2020 12:30 pm

Not really. Posting an ad in the proper parts wanted section may get you more attention.

Aside from that unless someone actually has these laying around or a junk wagon of this vintage they can’t really provide any. I pretty much never see box style wagons around.

I know there are some other wagon forums out there that may provide more options.
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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeThu Jun 04, 2020 12:51 pm

Time to hit up car-part.com for manifolds. However, if it were mine, I'd order up a set of Cutlass 307 headers and make them work.
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PostSubject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's   Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Icon_minitimeWed Jun 10, 2020 12:00 pm

i used sanderson shorty headers on a 89 b body with a 455 & when i did the 403 swap in my 92 occ,pics are in my post in the builds section, sanderson part# 0351 expensive here in canada but fit perfect
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