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redcaddy
Posts : 120 Join date : 2014-09-20 Age : 73 Location : Venice Floriduh
| Subject: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Wed May 27, 2020 11:26 am | |
| Hi, first things first. I need a pair of exh manifolds for my 5.0 in the '89 buick wagon, mine grew legs during the current overhaul. Anybody have a set you can part with? (the 2 outlet drivers side set) I need to lose the air injection pump and associated hardware The tapped holes for the air injection manifold on the heads have been plugged. What do I need to know besides what I have done? Thanks in advance, Paul | |
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Fred Kiehl
Posts : 7282 Join date : 2009-11-13 Age : 76 Location : Largo, FL 33774
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Wed May 27, 2020 7:53 pm | |
| Get a set of headers. Heddman makes a set that fits Chevelles that will also fit your car. You will need to put a hump in the left side of your trans crossmember, and put duals on the car. It will have a good bit more power. The muffler mount from the right side will bolt to already existing holes on the rear crossmember. Relatively easy to do, or have done. | |
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redcaddy
Posts : 120 Join date : 2014-09-20 Age : 73 Location : Venice Floriduh
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Thu May 28, 2020 8:58 am | |
| I already have a custom dual exhuast, 2 in. flowmasters with crossovers, so I'm looking for as close a fit to the stock manifolds as possible. I think shorty headers would require the least work to install/hook up and not hang down much lower than the cast irons. (with the suspension mods I did, I'm already an inch or so closer to the ground)
Anybody have a brand and part number? I've arrested all the usual suspects, (headman,thorley,summit etc.) with out much luck. (carid asked for the VIN, on a 35 year old ride?,WTFO/)
I'm deleting the air injection anyway, so that will not be an issue. (good old "no smog" floriduh) I'm not expecting a huge performance increase, but should see some efficiency (MPG) improvement with a .030" over bore, .020" head shave and 3 angle valve job. headers, tho not planned, will help I'm sure.
Any and all help graciously accepted...
Paul | |
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Fred Kiehl
Posts : 7282 Join date : 2009-11-13 Age : 76 Location : Largo, FL 33774
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Thu May 28, 2020 9:13 am | |
| You can use any headers that fit a Chevelle. The rear plugs sometimes get blocked by the rear primary tube. I had to remove my starter to tighten #8. You must put an 90 deg. elbow on the oil pressure sensor to miss the #7 primary tube. | |
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redcaddy
Posts : 120 Join date : 2014-09-20 Age : 73 Location : Venice Floriduh
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Thu May 28, 2020 2:52 pm | |
| Thanks Fred, does anybody know, from experience, what application gives the best clearance? I really don't want to spend a couple hundred bucks and find I can't look at a plug without extreme measures.
Still holding out for a good used pair of stocker's.
Paul | |
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jayoldschool
Posts : 2728 Join date : 2009-06-14
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Thu May 28, 2020 5:53 pm | |
| In case Fred doesn't realize it: the 5.0 in redcaddy's wagon is a 307 OLDS engine. | |
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redcaddy
Posts : 120 Join date : 2014-09-20 Age : 73 Location : Venice Floriduh
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Thu May 28, 2020 6:28 pm | |
| Thanks Jay, you are, as usual, eggzackery correct.
Paul | |
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Fred Kiehl
Posts : 7282 Join date : 2009-11-13 Age : 76 Location : Largo, FL 33774
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Thu May 28, 2020 9:33 pm | |
| I thought the whole line was switched to generic GM engines by 89. | |
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redcaddy
Posts : 120 Join date : 2014-09-20 Age : 73 Location : Venice Floriduh
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Fri May 29, 2020 7:39 am | |
| Fred, I'm the 3rd owner of this starship so I don't know fer sure, but the local machine shop, that did the work for me on this overhaul, told me that it is an OLDS motor with 7-A heads. At just over 100 K, it cracked a head (between the valves) $2600.00 later, I'm bolting the heads back on and filling the hole.
Anybody know what the block number series should be, I'll look it up, and we will know fer sure.
Paul | |
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jayoldschool
Posts : 2728 Join date : 2009-06-14
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Fri May 29, 2020 10:12 am | |
| - Fred Kiehl wrote:
- I thought the whole line was switched to generic GM engines by 89.
Well, the 307 Olds was a "generic GM engine" then. And all boxy wagons got them in the late 80s. | |
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booster
Posts : 608 Join date : 2020-04-21 Location : Andover, Minnesota
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Fri May 29, 2020 10:32 am | |
| Back in the day, during the conversion to corporate GM engines from brand specific builds, there was even a lawsuit filed from "higher" brand owners in regards to what was called the use of "Chevrolet" engines in their vehicles. IIRC, they even won.
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redcaddy
Posts : 120 Join date : 2014-09-20 Age : 73 Location : Venice Floriduh
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Fri May 29, 2020 12:59 pm | |
| Welp, all I know is that the question was decided at a very high, uninvolved level, no good came of it and the corporation got to steal more tax dollars to share with the executives.
I just spent a bunch of money on an obsolete mode of transportation, that I happen to enjoy very much. I don't give a good god damn what engine it had installed at the factory, I just want to put the correct parts in it and continue to drive it, hopefully, 'till I'm dead. (it's OK, I'm old)
Still looking for a pair of manifolds or a number for shorty headers... Paul | |
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redcaddy
Posts : 120 Join date : 2014-09-20 Age : 73 Location : Venice Floriduh
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:37 am | |
| Crickets? X 4 days. really? Did I miss the bus?
Paul in Venice | |
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94Woody
Posts : 2438 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:30 pm | |
| Not really. Posting an ad in the proper parts wanted section may get you more attention.
Aside from that unless someone actually has these laying around or a junk wagon of this vintage they can’t really provide any. I pretty much never see box style wagons around.
I know there are some other wagon forums out there that may provide more options. | |
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jayoldschool
Posts : 2728 Join date : 2009-06-14
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:51 pm | |
| Time to hit up car-part.com for manifolds. However, if it were mine, I'd order up a set of Cutlass 307 headers and make them work. | |
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occ6.6
Posts : 54 Join date : 2016-01-05
| Subject: Re: Exh manifolds and air injectionQ's Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:00 pm | |
| i used sanderson shorty headers on a 89 b body with a 455 & when i did the 403 swap in my 92 occ,pics are in my post in the builds section, sanderson part# 0351 expensive here in canada but fit perfect | |
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