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PostSubject: Got a new wagon for a winter beater.   Got a new wagon for a winter beater. Icon_minitimeThu Oct 21, 2010 7:14 pm

I found a dark blue (MAB ?) '95 Caprice wagon in Henrietta, NY. for $800.00. The under side is really rusted,
and the frame is rotted pretty good too. Looks like I'll have to remove the driver side lower control arm frame
mount to patch the frame the right way. Hopefully I'll get a couple of years out of it. Other than the rusty
undersides the car is in nice shape, and everything works the way it should... except for the wig-wags on the
head lights. I'll have to fix those and have some fun with them. It's raining pretty good here so I'll have to get
pics later, maybe tonight if it lets up a little. I ended up getting the car for $650.00, I don't think too bad.... I'll
do a write up on frame repair in the next few weeks. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Got a new wagon for a winter beater.   Got a new wagon for a winter beater. Icon_minitimeThu Oct 21, 2010 7:39 pm

Mike, check the frame just before the rear wheels and underneath the rear door.

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That's were the rot is on the frame, left side, just in front of the rear tire, but there is rust every were else under there. The good thing is I can't see the rear seat springs from under the car Laughing .

On to the pics. Sorry they are so bad, I'll try again in a few days.

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Wide whites,wig wags,exterior very well kept, underside never looked at,Sure reminds me of a lead car for a FH.

Great deal , It would grab my attention for sure.
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I hate you. Smile
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Wig wags? <_<
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when he first said wig wags and dark blue I thought NYSP 1A2 but not dark enough blue, black hoses, carpet and wire wheel hubcaps.... Sad

nice score for a beater!!!!

wig-wags are blinky police light type things
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Sprocket wrote:
when he first said wig wags and dark blue I thought NYSP 1A2 but not dark enough blue, black hoses, carpet and wire wheel hubcaps.... Sad

nice score for a beater!!!!

wig-wags are blinky police light type things

I thought the same thing. Nice looking wagon, too bad its such a rust bucket. In a few years you should have a good parts harvest.
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Congrats. Hope he gives you a couple years good service!
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Wide whites,wig wags,exterior very well kept, underside never looked at,Sure reminds me of a lead car for a FH.

Great deal , It would grab my attention for sure.

That is what is about to happen to my Caprice soon. Tints, front and rear strobes, wood coming off...
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Wow, if I took pictures like that, I wonder if my wagon would look as nice... Razz Seriously, looks like your black wagon will be saved from the snow and salt!
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Congrats! Smile When/if the frame goes...you will have lots of good parts!
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I went through all the repair receipts the couple had given me with the car, and looks like they spent almost $2,300.00 in the last 2 years! Every little thing works on this car, it's great... other than the frame and underneath.
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Nice car, specially for the price you paid. It's got the LT1, so how bad can it be? (apart from the rust)
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Shoot it looks pretty good, and will look even better once you clean it up. Great run-around car! Great price too! Congrats!
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Nice score Mike!!!!! I will have to see her when I come up for TurkeyDay........

What is with the little alternator?
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BigBlackBeaSSt wrote:
What is with the little alternator?

I'm not sure.... It has big mirrors though, any connection? Wink
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L99 alternator?
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Not all Caprice LT1's got the heavy duty alternator. Mine has the "little" one too.
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[Schwarzenegger]CAPRICE WAGONS DON'T NEED BIG ELECTRICITY[/Schwarzenegger]
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Must be the bigger mirrors produce enough draft to cause static electricity. study This compensates for the smaller alternator........... Be careful that you do not go to fast. You will over load the battery. Shocked
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Must be the bigger mirrors produce enough draft to cause static electricity. study This compensates for the smaller alternator........... Be careful that you do not go to fast. You will over load the battery. Shocked

You may also overload the flux capacitor if you go past 88 mph
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Got some better pictures.

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Cleaned up nice.

Did it come with the Johnny Reb flag on it or is that your addition?

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Cleaned up nice under the hood as well. It looks good!! We won't hold the big mirrors against it. You now have a hitch and an excuse to buy a camper!!!!
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The Stars and Bars are my first mod. Very Happy

The hitch is a permanent part of the car, the rust monster welded it to the rotted frame.
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Dam nice lookin car. Shame the underside is as bad as it is.

Is it wrong that I'm making a shopping list in my head for if/when you part it? Laughing
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Dam nice lookin car. Shame the underside is as bad as it is.

Is it wrong that I'm making a shopping list in my head for if/when you part it? Laughing

No, Maybe a part out at WF NE '11?
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200OZ wrote:
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Dam nice lookin car. Shame the underside is as bad as it is.

Is it wrong that I'm making a shopping list in my head for if/when you part it? Laughing

No, Maybe a part out at WF NE '11?

My toolbox salivates at the thought Laughing
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Cleaned up real nice! Just hide the fact the bottom is rusted out. BTW, I like the big mirrors.
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WOW! Nice job cleaning it up!
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BTW, I like the big mirrors.

Same here, first mod I did to my wagon was ditching the little useless ones.

You scored a nice wagon, will make a great daily driver.
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94Woody wrote:
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BTW, I like the big mirrors.

Same here, first mod I did to my wagon was ditching the little useless ones.

You scored a nice wagon, will make a great daily driver.

Me too. I hate my little mirrors. The doors are one of the things on my "shopping list" if that car gets parted. Laughing
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Cadet57 wrote:
94Woody wrote:
95BRMW wrote:
BTW, I like the big mirrors.

Same here, first mod I did to my wagon was ditching the little useless ones.

You scored a nice wagon, will make a great daily driver.

Me too. I hate my little mirrors. The doors are one of the things on my "shopping list" if that car gets parted. Laughing

I have a set of Large mirror WHITE WOODY doors if you are interested................
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I have a set of Large mirror WHITE WOODY doors if you are interested................

PM Sent Laughing
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How much difference do the "large" mirrors make anyway? I've always wondered.
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How much difference do the "large" mirrors make anyway? I've always wondered.

Not 100% sure, but imo it almost doubles the view you have. The fleetwood we have at work has almost the same mirror as the Caprice/Roadie and they are a lot better than looking out the little mirror.
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I must have those OZ wheels and I have a set of chrome BBS wheels to trade if you are interested!Now that is a good looking wagon and a huge
SHAME about the frame rust.The previous owners obviously wanted to take care of the car,but I guess none of the service techs ever mentioned
all the rust until it was too late.Maybe you could find a good frame and Chris can help you do a swap.Oh hell just repair the frame and suspension
from underneath the car.
Hey Chris just kiddin and I bet you thought everyone had forgot about your frame and body seperation anxiety!
Good Lookin Car and future parts donor and thats a shame.
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How much difference do the "large" mirrors make anyway? I've always wondered.

I like how they are moved more forward than the door mounted mirrors. They also make the windows easier to clean. I have yet to measure both mirrors to get a size difference.

The main reason I swapped mine was because I removed the wood "stickers" and had the spare doors. Swapping the doors saved a lot of welding and putty to cover all the trim/mirror holes Smile If only I had some spare rear doors and a dent free gate.

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I've never driven a car with the small mirrors, but can say sitting in the ones in the salvage yard....well the 94 and older sure look tiny....and they sit so far back on the door it seems pretty odd after driving my 96.

BUT the 95-96 mirrors don't "feel" as stout and well made as the 94 and older. The larger mirror housings are kinda thin plastic, but I do like that they fold in. Helps in the garage.

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