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PostSubject: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeSun May 15, 2011 12:42 pm

i just got my new pst catalog they have a kit to put vett brakes on older cars comes with hubs bearings and brackets. they dont list are cars was wondering if they will in future. the kit cost $ 400.00 here is web address if you want to take a look
www.p-s-t.com
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeSun May 29, 2011 4:37 pm

mtrhead79 wrote:
i just got my new pst catalog they have a kit to put vett brakes on older cars comes with hubs bearings and brackets. they dont list are cars was wondering if they will in future. the kit cost $ 400.00 here is web address if you want to take a look
www.p-s-t.com

Can you be a little more specific?
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeSun May 29, 2011 9:40 pm

hey tim i have there catalog around some where and it had a hub kit that looked alot like the kore kit i cant find it on there web site let me look for catalog
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeSun May 29, 2011 10:02 pm

tim thier web site shows the old catalog. i have the printed new catalog. it says put corvette brakes on your muscle car on pages 18. says c5/c6 front brake kit, forged aluminum hubs and bullit caliper brakets. you can bolt on standard 12.8'' or 13.4 z51 rotors or 14.0 z06 set up. the cars they have listed are
64-72gs,skylark
73-74 apollo
78-88 century,gn,regal
64-72 chevelle,monte,el camino
68-74 nova
78-88 chevelle monte carlo
64-72 442 f85 cutlass
78-88 442 cutlass
64-72 gto, lemans
67-69 firebird
71-74 venture
78-88 grand prix gto lemans
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeSun May 29, 2011 10:06 pm

i wonder if you could get one of the kits to fit wagon. if so i would just redrill rear axles to the 5x 4 3/4 bolt pattern. would have a better choice of wheels any way with the smaller bolt pattern
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeSun May 29, 2011 10:07 pm

well about 6 yrs ago,...




Nick
with big brakes front and back from a corvette on one of the wagons,.
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 8:47 am

Nick, are you trying to tell us you did something like this six years ago?.

I have no recollection of it.

I think what many would like to see is a bolt on kit not requiring us to go out and buy bigger wheels to fit around the calipers. I have 16's on. no kit that I know of would help me.

Did 94-96 Impalas have disc brakes?
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 9:05 am

Yes, the SS (and the 94-6 9C1 got four wheel discs). For your small 16s, the only option is going to a thicker front rotor. You could mount up the 71-76 B body spindle and rotor, or go with Bill Harper's custom setup. The diameter of both is the same as the 91-96 rotor, but the rotor itself is thicker. Note that with the 71-76 you will lose ABS.
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 9:20 am

Jay, I don't mind losing the ABS function. I don't drive it in the winter where it might be more critical. I'm about to lose it anyway as I'll be having my Differential changed over to a Posi and 3.42:1 gears.

I'd like to get Discs on the rear, But I can't recall seeing a set up that didn't force going to 17' or larger wheels, as there were all Corvette parts oriented.

Did I miss something? Can I keep 16' AND have rear Discs Brakes?

Relevant links would be most helpful,

Thanks,
Dave
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 3:40 pm

people still run 15 and 16" rubber??
well you wanna stop you need bigger rubber
end of story,
I,ve built 4 sets of 13" front brakes for myself and others,. same thing joel did,. but with a cut/re-drilled c5 front rotor and c3 fixed 4 piston calipers,.
once you,ve had a set the stock brakes will scare you,.
blue car has c5 front and rear,.

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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 5:28 pm

You can have 15" wheels and rear disc brakes. Remember, the stock 9C1 wheel was 15", and the car used the same brakes as the SS.

I have to say, I'm with Nick. Time to step up the rolling stock. Go with some nice 18s, and 13-14" rotors on the brakes. Rides fine, handles better than you could possibly imagine.
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 8:38 pm

Not on Shammoo.


Part of the heritage of that car are those Boyd Coddington Wheels. They've been a part of that car since 1993 and will stay there. That why I need something to work with 16's.

That aside, new wheels and tires would be looking at a $ Grand easy. I've got less than 5K miles on the tires. That money is going for a posi and 3:42's. Maybe this week.
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 9:45 pm

Dave please keep the Boyds but please dont give up your ABS as you it more often than you
realize.Although you have modified it internally leave the outside alone.You have worked too
hard to document the cars history which obviously is important to you.Shammoo was built
with those wheels and thay should stay on it.There are still decent tires available for 15" rims
and you can somehow integrate disc brakes from the SS or maybe a C3 series Vette which
were still using 15" wheels.Besides if you did replace the Coddington wheels Boyd would
probably haunt you for changing his wheels.Those wheels have been on your wagon for 18
years now so why change now?
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 9:52 pm

lakeffect wrote:
I'm about to lose it anyway as I'll be having my Differential changed over to a Posi and 3.42:1 gears.

Why are you losing ABS? Can't you get a reluctor for 3.42's?
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 10:02 pm

lakeffect wrote:
Not on Shammoo.


Part of the heritage of that car are those Boyd Coddington Wheels. They've been a part of that car since 1993 and will stay there. That why I need something to work with 16's.

That aside, new wheels and tires would be looking at a $ Grand easy. I've got less than 5K miles on the tires. That money is going for a posi and 3:42's. Maybe this week.

time for a makeover,. you've already ruined the" heritage" ?? of the car with the 406, overhead console etc,.
time to get out of the dinosaur years,.nothing worse than a go fast car that can't stop,.

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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 10:37 pm

i would like to get bigger brakes on the front and thought that with the kit costing $400.00 then try to get rotors and calipers cheap. nick what did it run you for the 13" setup? i think i would go with a 5x 4 3/4 bolt pattern and drill the rear axles to match that way when i need new rotors i could just get a set without redrilling them. when i was looking at brake kits on other forum they seam to be big$$ or confusing on what people did to make it work
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 10:48 pm

The interior of the car was made over three times already before I got to it. Externally, other than a few stickers, it's still the same. It was different for awhile with an Impala grill, But I returned it to Shammoo's custom billet grill.

I agree with Nick's comment about the need to stop well, not just accelerate. Just need an option to fit the 16" Coddington Tomahawk wheels.

Rh96ss, yes there is a3:42 reluctor available if I had a new pinion and ring gear. I have a used posi and gear set. Low miles but no reluctor provision. I understand your point though. It's well taken.
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 10:58 pm

Cant you get the pinion reground to fit the reluctor ring onto its shaft or not?Just a thought.Considering the kind of driving most of us do, a proper performing rear drum
with aggressive shoes equipped with abs will stop just as fast as any disc brake set-up
but will fade away much faster.How many of us drive that fast for long periods of time
and only US owners can answer.European owners have the autobahn and thusly have a
need for 4 wheel disc brakes.Just being realistic here guys!
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 11:00 pm

Might be a possibilty. I'll need to get some sources for parts info on the situation.
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeMon May 30, 2011 11:30 pm

mtrhead79 wrote:
i would like to get bigger brakes on the front and thought that with the kit costing $400.00 then try to get rotors and calipers cheap. nick what did it run you for the 13" setup? i think i would go with a 5x 4 3/4 bolt pattern and drill the rear axles to match that way when i need new rotors i could just get a set without redrilling them. when i was looking at brake kits on other forum they seam to be big$$ or confusing on what people did to make it work

source out c3 calipers,. c5 rotors,. i doubt i'll ever have to buy another set,,. they just don't get stressed in every day driving,.pushing a drill thru the rotors is easy,.
i think i have less than $1200 for front and back,.
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeTue May 31, 2011 7:17 am

Thanks Nick.
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeTue May 31, 2011 11:08 am

Bob Shirley makes a reluctor to go on non-reluctor gear sets.

If you want ultimate stopping with those sized wheels, look into Nascar brakes. They fit 15" wheels. There are shops in the Southeast that specialize in used race parts.
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeWed Jun 01, 2011 4:34 am

jayoldschool wrote:
Bob Shirley makes a reluctor to go on non-reluctor gear sets.
yup. Definitely worth it.
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeFri Jun 03, 2011 9:52 pm

SSBC has a rear disc brake kit for the B bodys
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PostSubject: Re: pst new brake kit   pst new brake kit Icon_minitimeFri Jun 03, 2011 10:19 pm

chevy man wrote:
SSBC has a rear disc brake kit for the B bodys

Ok,. i'll state the obvious,.
Thems is for Cdans,. not wagins,.
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