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turbojimmy
Posts : 150 Join date : 2012-10-19
| Subject: Gave up on The Betty Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:06 pm | |
| I'm sorry to report that my brother Mike and I have abandoned our efforts to restore The Betty ('96 BRMW). Not only did Mike break the good windshield trying to remove it from the donor car, I demolished the vista roof doing the same (I think that makes us even...just sayin'). Looking at the damage to the roof, 'ol Betty would never be right anyway. So we're junking the '96 and '94 wagons. Mike stands to make enough money to recover the cost of the parts car and has been compensated for the damage to The Betty. I may snag the '94 engine and trans - my Fleetwood is making scary bottom-end noises when it's cold.
Mike is on the search for a decent '96 Roadmaster Wagon. Price has to reflect reality, not speculative collector value (as many asking prices do). Willing to pay a premium for a lower mileage car, but let's not get crazy.
We'll keep the 2 junk wagons around to make sure the "new" wagon (once acquired) doesn't need anything. | |
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81X11
Posts : 9876 Join date : 2010-06-23 Age : 50 Location : Round Rock Texas
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:44 pm | |
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turbojimmy
Posts : 150 Join date : 2012-10-19
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:53 pm | |
| Saw most of those. Trying to upgrade a bit. A couple of them, however, we hadn't seen and look pretty good. Thanks for the info!
EDIT: That one in Texas is a winner. If you're coming to Chatham, and have room for it, we can compensate you for delivery. Chatham is close to us. We can meet you there. PM me if it's a possibility! | |
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JoeT
Posts : 680 Join date : 2010-03-06 Age : 68 Location : 48098
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:02 pm | |
| - turbojimmy wrote:
- Saw most of those. Trying to upgrade a bit. A couple of them, however, we hadn't seen and look pretty good. Thanks for the info!
EDIT: That one in Texas is a winner. If you're coming to Chatham, and have room for it, we can compensate you for delivery. Chatham is close to us. We can meet you there. PM me if it's a possibility! Wow! Matchmaker Mike strikes again! | |
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turbojimmy
Posts : 150 Join date : 2012-10-19
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:48 pm | |
| Dude in Texas isn't returning calls - me thinks that's why the car is still for sale. | |
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Sprocket
Posts : 6140 Join date : 2008-11-04 Location : Palm Beach County
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:12 pm | |
| ^^^very well could be sold already. The ad for my t-56 that I bought 3 or 4 weeks ago is still up on CL. | |
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GN1220
Posts : 340 Join date : 2008-11-06 Age : 52 Location : Kansas City, MO
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:35 pm | |
| - Sprocket wrote:
- ^^^very well could be sold already. The ad for my t-56 that I bought 3 or 4 weeks ago is still up on CL.
Why not delete it? | |
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s1l1sc
Posts : 405 Join date : 2011-11-05 Location : Rock Hill, SC
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:54 pm | |
| - GN1220 wrote:
- Sprocket wrote:
- ^^^very well could be sold already. The ad for my t-56 that I bought 3 or 4 weeks ago is still up on CL.
Why not delete it? Not his ad - he bought the car, didn't post the ad... :-) | |
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GN1220
Posts : 340 Join date : 2008-11-06 Age : 52 Location : Kansas City, MO
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:10 pm | |
| - s1l1sc wrote:
- GN1220 wrote:
- Sprocket wrote:
- ^^^very well could be sold already. The ad for my t-56 that I bought 3 or 4 weeks ago is still up on CL.
Why not delete it? Not his ad - he bought the car, didn't post the ad... :-) DOH! Sorry, I did misunderstand. | |
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turbojimmy
Posts : 150 Join date : 2012-10-19
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:47 pm | |
| The search is over. I give you "Black Betty": She has 82k miles and was owned by an octogenarian in Long Island. It's in better shape than the original The Betty and the black looks great on her. It's a '96 tow package car and everything works perfectly. It had been sitting in that spot for 2 years so it could use some cleaning. It made the long trip home flawlessly, too. I'm sure my brother (the owner) will post more once he has time to go over it. | |
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Big Wagon Guy
Posts : 349 Join date : 2010-02-15 Location : Wasaga Beach Ontario
| Subject: Nice find! Love the use of the 50 cent word :) Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:57 pm | |
| Looks to be in great shape. Congratulations.
Octogenarian (plural octogenarians)
One who is between the age of eighty and eighty-nine, inclusive.
Don't park this one under any trees. | |
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Sprocket
Posts : 6140 Join date : 2008-11-04 Location : Palm Beach County
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:52 pm | |
| whoa, black betty (bam-A-lam) that's a good looking woody in the rarest woody color no less. One of the first wagons I looked at years ago was a black woody but it was rusty even then (mid 2000s). | |
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toomanytoyz
Posts : 3233 Join date : 2008-11-04 Age : 48 Location : Sandown, NH USA
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:26 pm | |
| Nice! Tint it and lower it! And as mentioned, stay away from those pesky trees! | |
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JoeT
Posts : 680 Join date : 2010-03-06 Age : 68 Location : 48098
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:44 pm | |
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turbojimmy
Posts : 150 Join date : 2012-10-19
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:42 pm | |
| Thanks guys! I think this one is a keeper. It would look killer with some tint.
The owner knew all about this wagon, and knew how much he could get for it. He knew it had the "Limited" interior and some other stuff the average joe wouldn't know. Still, we got a fair deal compared to what they appear to be going for on eBay and elsewhere. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:12 pm | |
| - turbojimmy wrote:
- The search is over. I give you "Black Betty":
She has 82k miles and was owned by an octogenarian in Long Island. It's in better shape than the original The Betty and the black looks great on her. It's a '96 tow package car and everything works perfectly. It had been sitting in that spot for 2 years so it could use some cleaning. It made the long trip home flawlessly, too.
I'm sure my brother (the owner) will post more once he has time to go over it. Do you mind telling us how much you guys paid for this beautiful "Black Betty" Bam A Lam? |
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turbojimmy
Posts : 150 Join date : 2012-10-19
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:26 pm | |
| - Flasheroo wrote:
- Do you mind telling us how much you guys paid for this beautiful "Black Betty" Bam A Lam?
$3,400 | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:39 pm | |
| - turbojimmy wrote:
- Flasheroo wrote:
- Do you mind telling us how much you guys paid for this beautiful "Black Betty" Bam A Lam?
$3,400 Awesome price and no more body swap needed,hows it look underneath? |
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turbojimmy
Posts : 150 Join date : 2012-10-19
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:53 pm | |
| It looks great underneath. No rot. The usual stuff is rusty but not rotted - tank straps, random braces, etc. Exhaust looks great. Load leveling pump doesn't work anymore - shocker. Other than that, it's all good.
The (original) Betty had some rocker and quarter rust going on. Some bubbling through the paint, but nothing that had poked through yet. This one is clean. The only rust on it is where the paint was penetrated by chips. Nothing from the inside out.
Under hood is really clean. It's the most quiet LT1 I've ever heard. My brother said the G80 gearing makes a noticeable difference.
The tailgate has a bad hinge, but he tossed some new ones in. We'll have to put all 3 wagons side-by-side before we junk any of them, but it's looking like Black Betty doesn't need much. | |
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jayoldschool
Posts : 2728 Join date : 2009-06-14
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:10 pm | |
| Congrats, TJ! Sweet ride, good buy. | |
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95BRMW
Posts : 1695 Join date : 2009-08-15 Age : 40 Location : Connecticut
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:30 pm | |
| Congrats, looks like a keeper. | |
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turbojimmy
Posts : 150 Join date : 2012-10-19
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:51 am | |
| - jayoldschool wrote:
- Congrats, TJ! Sweet ride, good buy.
Thanks Jay! If this one had turned out to be a dud, I think my brother would have given up. I've been doing my best to keep him interested in the wagons. He was getting discouraged at the lack of decent ones on the market, and the high prices associated with anything that was not a total basket case. He set up an "alert" on CraigsList and got a hit Wednesday. He called the guy right away and knew by talking to him that this might be the one. The ad didn't say what color it was, but as soon as we rolled up and saw the black I knew we had to leave with that car. The owner was 80-years old, but as spry as a 20-year-old. He had some sort of relationship with his neighbor where he used his garage for working on his cars. Between the 2 of them they rattled off some nice machinery that they owned. At the garage was a '47 Plymouth street rod and a '66 Mercedes that the 80-year-old had converted to an "El Camino" 35 years ago. The neighbor was buffing out the fresh paint on a '91 Z28 convertible. It had the LT1 Corvette engine from that year and a 5-speed, which he said was special ordered by a GM exec. It was really nice to bump into people as passionate about automobiles as we are. | |
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s1l1sc
Posts : 405 Join date : 2011-11-05 Location : Rock Hill, SC
| Subject: Re: Gave up on The Betty Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:47 am | |
| Really nice looking wagon. Great find! | |
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