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Do everything you can to keep a good relationship with that body guy.
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For sure. lol

I already asked his wife what he likes to drink. I'm on it. lol
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Well let's see what he'll charge me to tackle this mess:

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Both front doors still open with no noises or abnormalities. Car still runs and drives. Radiator not busted (it didn't overheat on the way home).

Anybody got a FRONT bumper cover? lol

Oh, and a hood? And a set of cornering lights.... and a set of Fleetwood horns (this KO'd my air horns), and a grille/support?


Sigh.
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You've GOT to be kidding me! Sad

Dude, time for a refresher course. Razz
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Bummer dude.... Were you looking over your shoulder to change lanes while everyone in front of you stopped?

Out of front bumper covers...

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Shocked Wow! That machine is cursed! The paint wasn't even dry yet.

If there was ever a car itching' to be in the derby, this must be it.
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Never!
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Bring it back to your body guy and tell him he missed a spot.
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Did you get a ticket for this one and the last one,sure do hope not.Is fla a no fault state because of all the retirees down there?
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Sadly, yes to both. Last one I took traffic school. This one I'm eating it - because I can't take it twice in a year.
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Ray I have the core support, hood, caprice grille, and may have a headlight.
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I have the headlights. Grille and support are en route.

How difficult is it to change the core support? How does that work?

(P.S. Now you see why I was interested in your SS grille Razz)
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Pretty simple to change all that out. Don't feel too bad - it happens - just learn from it. I've changed a front clip twice now (different cars, different reasons).

Radiator support is pretty simple. Just takes some time.
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The core support bolts together? I've done the front clip before, so I'm no stranger to that part.


It's just disheartening. I have so much on my plate, so much going on, and now this. Bleh.
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Ray, theres a bunch of bubble caprices up here if you need a front bumper skin
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Ray, it's not hard to do the work yourself in a day. Just have your body guy line the hood up and paint.

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When I got my wagon the core support was rotted.

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Took it out.. its just bolted in.

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new one in.. didnt even take out the radiator... or removed the bumper. Although it's probably easier to...

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That looks very doable, actually.... I'd remove the bumper, just because I have to anyway.

Hmmm....
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Ouch!!

focus young man,. focus,..use a strap and another car,. mebbe tweak the rad support back?

I do like to upgrade the brakes on the wagons, 4 piston calipers and the bigger rotors really do make a difference,.

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Yeah, that's the plan for now, to see if I can get it straight enough to put the headlight back on that side.
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Ray, I'm so sorry about your car!! Thankfully, from the photo, it looks like you say, just the core support and related parts. I would take off the bumper, as it just makes the job easier. It is really just a bunch of nuts and bolts, so don't fret about the job. And, if there is any upside to this (which there isn't) at least you won't have any issues with paint match! Best of luck, and post any questions you may have. I've done a bunch of core supports, and as smart a guy as you are, you will have no problems. Good luck, Mark.
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You've got some bad luck dude. lol sorry.

Car looks good though. (minus the crushed front end)
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No offense but I'd be looking for a quarter panel too. If all of the putty holding the quarter together cracked just by bolting the bumper back on, a year from now you will be looking at a cracked, busted, failing mess. You can't build panels out of bondo and expext them to last. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for.
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Did you miss the pic of the quarter, bare steel, all back in place? The guy did a decent job on the metal before the skim coat.
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Did you miss the pic of the quarter, bare steel, all back in place? The guy did a decent job on the metal before the skim coat.

No I saw it. Did you miss all of the putty busted apart when he tried to bolt the bumper back on? Major issues in store for this car....
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Stingroo wrote:
Sadly, yes to both. Last one I took traffic school. This one I'm eating it - because I can't take it twice in a year.

don't eat the ticket, go to the ticket clinic and have them work it for you.
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Did you miss the pic of the quarter, bare steel, all back in place? The guy did a decent job on the metal before the skim coat.

No I saw it. Did you miss all of the putty busted apart when he tried to bolt the bumper back on? Major issues in store for this car....

I saw that, too. Sure, there was some filler on that corner. I don't think it is fair to say the complete quarter is caked in it, though. Ray's car is two decade old daily transportation with a satin paint job. He lives where it doesn't go below freezing very often, and the roads are smooth. It's never going to be a show car (and that's ok). I believe the repair was appropriate.
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Even that corner passed the magnet test at the track.

It's really not that bad.
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Sorry to see you had another bump! But I agree with Nick...I think you can pull that support out. It is pretty easy to swap supports though (just the fender top bolts and then two bolts that hold it to the front frame sections) Obviously you don't have to take the fenders and inner fenders off by the way, this pic is when I had it all apart.

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when the wife played tag with a deer in her fancy ford,. it tweaked the support,.
i snuck it out without draining the coolant or the a/c,..


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Well, found out my core support is actually broken. It's a bit rusty (PA car originally).

Saw the body guy. He says he can get a support and a bumper cover from the local JY. Install, re-fill hood ornament hole on hood I have coming, and spray for $300.


Sigh. Good price, but not money I needed to spend.



Does anybody know if TBI and LT1 core supports are the same?
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Will it be ready in time for WFNY? Wink
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This time he says this repair is easy. Claims one week (I feel like I've heard this before - right?!) lol
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did he mention WHICH week?
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Wait.... Who IS this ^^^^ guy????? Suspect
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Superior Finish wrote:
did he mention WHICH week?


Ha.

I told him I needed it by May 1st at the latest, because of graduation. He said it would be done way before that.

Whatever the case, I feel confident that he'll give it to me in time.
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toomanytoyz wrote:
Wait.... Who IS this ^^^^ guy????? Suspect

letting go of the wagon, but will remain as a vendor.

Instead of starting as a new user, I chose to keep my history with you guys.

Ray, do you think he will meet that deadline? You will be local this time, right?
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Yeah, I think he'll make it. Realistically, straightening that quarter panel was a lot more labor intensive than swapping a bumper and core support.

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Now would be a good time to install the FW fans.
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Yep! That's the plan. lol
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Does anybody know if TBI and LT1 core supports are the same?

Yeah. The hood spring mount is a little different (where the airbag sensor mounts) but its an easy adaption.

That is a really good price Ray!!
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Superior Finish wrote:
toomanytoyz wrote:
Wait.... Who IS this ^^^^ guy????? Suspect

letting go of the wagon, but will remain as a vendor.

Instead of starting as a new user, I chose to keep my history with you guys.

Ray, do you think he will meet that deadline? You will be local this time, right?

Is that gorgeous wagon of yours gone to a member?
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New (to me) core support located. He says there's a bumper or two there at the yard as well. I asked him to look for a Custom Cruiser bumper, because he THINKS one of the wagons there was an Olds.

That would be cool.
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Alright, so maaaaybe those aren't supposed to bend that way.

Possibly.
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Mebbe start a new thread,.
The re-re-re-re-repair of the roo wagon,..?
mebbe put it in the right section,.

daytona is over,.

i haven't been following this thread,.

but it looks interesting now,.

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roo, glad your pulling through with the repairs, you've been through alot lately.

all the best and good luck.

did you get that OCC front bumper cover?
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phantom 309 wrote:
Mebbe start a new thread,.
The re-re-re-re-repair of the roo wagon,..?
mebbe put it in the right section,.

daytona is over,.

i haven't been following this thread,.

but it looks interesting now,.

Nick

Fair point. Should do that.

*moseys on over to the project section*
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After everything thats happened to you and your family in the last 2 months,you are managing to stay remarkably positive.Others would
have given up and sold the wagon but you are getting it fixed AGAIN,says a lot about the man you are becoming.
Keep it up Ray!










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