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phantom 309

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PostSubject: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeSun Apr 28, 2013 7:37 pm

I was bored today,. so i fired up the little daycab freightliner and hooked onto the taisso trailer,.
went to the neighbours, and unloaded one of the wagons,.

So i,m back to driving my base model wagon with the manual trans,.
it doesn't take long to pick the gears tho,. Wink

The 847 cammed, big compression, lt4 headed 383 is quite fun,..I built the motor with a light crank, short rods, light pistons and pins, it loves to rev,.!! (the 4:88's help too,. Wink )

I'll be putting in the proper pilot bushing in the next day or so,.(eagle bored the hole too large so it needs a bigger bushing) and I,m going to try the aluminum flywheel,.

I also need to raise the trans a little too, and work on driveline angle,.car vibrates a bit over 100mph,.

I kept my foot out of it, and shifted early, Very Happy

JaySS has a friend scott that has sent me a tune for the car,.i just need to get a new cable to download it,.

Might even get to the fest this year,.mebbe kick a couple of ass's...... Twisted Evil





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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeSun Apr 28, 2013 7:53 pm

Badass......
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeSun Apr 28, 2013 9:34 pm

Love that car, dude. I'll have to drive it sometime. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeSun Apr 28, 2013 9:59 pm

Come back to Ottawa with me, we'll see Nick the next weekend! Spring... the time of year when a man's thoughts turn to car parts...
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeSun Apr 28, 2013 10:01 pm

I wish I could! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeMon Apr 29, 2013 11:20 am

how much? Wink
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeTue Apr 30, 2013 5:24 pm

benn wrote:
how much? Wink

$8000

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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeTue Apr 30, 2013 6:28 pm

Was that Canadian miles per hour or Us? Lol
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeTue Apr 30, 2013 7:23 pm

Sprocket wrote:
Was that Canadian miles per hour or Us? Lol

canuck little miles,.
it's on a gravel road and anything over 100 mph (160km) i have a vibration i need to work on,..
so i think i kept it back to 85? 90?,.i wasn't watching the speedo,.next time i'll push the button for murhican miles,.

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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeTue Apr 30, 2013 11:12 pm

I figured as it'd take a lil longer to pull it down from from the mid 140s, lol. Great vid, gives me motivation to get going on mine...
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeThu May 02, 2013 12:25 am

pulled the trans today ,. and swapped in the correct pilot bushing,.
I still had to mess with it,. it was .015 too big,.aaaargh!
so i polished it on the lathe till i was happy,. and took .002 out of the centre so it was a nice fit on the trans,.
I used the grease trick to remove the one in there,.i had tried to knurl it and i,d staked it,. to try and swell it up tighter in the crank,.it actually looked like i,d done a fair job,. no evidence of it turning,. but not many miles either,.
pack the hole with grease,. use a bolt wrapped in a shop rag, and whack it with a hammer,. hydraulics force the bushing out ,.
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I had to make up a pilot tool to do the clutch re-install
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i wrapped the shaft with some black electrical tape to increase the diameter, to keep the clutch disc centered
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added the aluminum neutral balance spec flywheel too,.
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everything sat there nice while i torqued it down,.
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i finally remembered where i put my fancy driveshaft too,.
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Now i have the dreaded lt1 airlocked clutch,. need to bleed the Bastid,. aaargh!

Nick


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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeThu May 02, 2013 7:29 pm

so its not the hydraulics,.
I took the trans out again today,. seems like the fork won't catch on to the clutch right or something,.i put it back in all seemed good,.and then,...
The clutch is making a wierd noise now and slipping like crazy,.

I loaded a free tune into the car,. the motor is rev happy bounces of the limiter real quick, and seems strong,.but stalls all the time,. doesn't want to idle,. check engine light on right away,.
Looks like i must have screwed something up somewhere,.

I,m totally sick of these LT1 cars,.UNLESS ITS BONE STOCK,.

i going to buy something thats already fast with no aggravation,.these obd1 lt1 rats are a pita,.



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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeThu May 02, 2013 7:58 pm

Plug the MAF back in?

Bummer about the clutch. You sure that was brake clean you sprayed on the flywheel and not PB Blaster? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeThu May 02, 2013 8:05 pm

toomanytoyz wrote:
Plug the MAF back in?

Bummer about the clutch. You sure that was brake clean you sprayed on the flywheel and not PB Blaster? Razz

Is it that funny?
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeThu May 02, 2013 10:02 pm

No, clutch issues suck. I had my share with that damn Fleetwood and Impala. Just trying to make light of it a bit... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeMon May 06, 2013 10:55 am

over the weekend i re-n re-d the trans a total of 5 separate times,.
the problems were,

my lack of experience with pull clutches ,.
spec clutch has a square style throwout bearing,
because i didn't have the square lined up properly, i managed to get the retaining clip bent down on one side on the fork and the fork slipped off the bearing one time,.took a piece out of the bellhousing,
and was making a squealing grinding noise as it was getting pushed up against the pressure plate,.

the fork i was using was worn out
so with the thicker aluminum flywheel it wasn't releasing completely,.
and the fancy spec clutch was hanging up sometimes,.

SO,.... i migged some material onto the fork fingers and ground them into shape,.
swapped the fancy blue spec clutch for a stocker,.

and my learning curve for pull clutches has flattened out somewhat nowand my frustration level has subsided considerably,.,.
You get what you pay for,.all the parts and pieces i have are used,.

Now the car will go into gear very easily,. which is something i always had a little difficulty with unless the pedal was squashed into the carpet,.(amazing what building up the fork fingers back to spec accomplished...duh)
shifts like its supposed to, (duh2)

The times for re-re certainly got quicker,.the last time was about 50 mins from the time it rolled on the hoist till the time the clutch was on the floor,.

Now i have to have a look at the stalling issue which is probably (maybe, hopefully) a stuck IAC,.

Then, to work on the check engine light,.after i scrounge up a cable from somewhere,.

Nick
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeMon May 06, 2013 3:55 pm

I think I might have my OBD1 cable with me here. I can mail it to you if you need it. You'll need datamaster equivalent.
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeMon May 06, 2013 4:30 pm

I'm bringing my cable to him this weekend.
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeMon May 06, 2013 6:04 pm

thansk Jay n Jay,.
I.m running out of time tho,.
i have job offers coming in from the west,..

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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeTue May 07, 2013 12:07 am

You have toys like that and yet you drove a Chryco minivan on your roadtrip. You're killing me....
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PostSubject: Re: driving the 4:88's   driving the 4:88's Icon_minitimeTue Mar 11, 2014 11:14 pm

my gaddd sorry to bring this old thread up but his car is frickin awesome. i want it! haha maybe if its still for sale at the end of summer...
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buy it now,.. big spring discounts available,.
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