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94Woody
Posts : 2439 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
| Subject: Group Purchase? Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:07 pm | |
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jayoldschool
Posts : 2728 Join date : 2009-06-14
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:09 pm | |
| Did I go into a coma and wake up on April 1st? Don't post this elsewhere. Trust me | |
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94Woody
Posts : 2439 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:27 pm | |
| I've posted it on every Auto forum I visit, lol. | |
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brokecello Moderator
Posts : 3478 Join date : 2009-05-28 Age : 46 Location : Greenville, SC
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:00 pm | |
| ...shoot. I have a Buick and an Oldsmobile. Won't work. | |
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phantom 309
Posts : 5848 Join date : 2008-12-28 Age : 114
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:00 pm | |
| i,ve already got three,..
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DBeaSSt Admin
Posts : 2585 Join date : 2008-11-04 Age : 54 Location : Front Royal, VA
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:47 pm | |
| Let's see, 20HP for $6. So if I buy five of them, that gives me 100 additional HP for only $30.
I'm in! | |
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lakeffect
Posts : 3892 Join date : 2009-08-18 Location : Rochester NY 14621
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:04 pm | |
| It's a resistor that you are paying through the nose for. You can buy a pack of them from Radio Shack. | |
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Krzdimond Admin
Posts : 3412 Join date : 2008-11-04 Age : 57 Location : Savannah, GA
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:29 pm | |
| I can't see the colors on the resistor, but Radio Shack has them 5 for a buck. | |
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Sprocket
Posts : 6140 Join date : 2008-11-04 Location : Palm Beach County
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:51 pm | |
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94Woody
Posts : 2439 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:50 pm | |
| Lol, it's a resistor that wouldn't do a damn thing but cost you a few MPG and probably ruin driveability to boot. | |
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phantom 309
Posts : 5848 Join date : 2008-12-28 Age : 114
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:23 am | |
| - 94Woody wrote:
- Lol, it's a resistor that wouldn't do a damn thing but cost you a few MPG and probably ruin driveability to boot.
TBI's have driveability?? nick | |
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94Woody
Posts : 2439 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:23 pm | |
| Here you go again.
Yeah they lack the power of the LT1 but just like them they actually run smoothly and get decent fuel mileage so yeah they have driveability. Better mileage than my LT1 actually so it gets driven more. | |
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phantom 309
Posts : 5848 Join date : 2008-12-28 Age : 114
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:03 pm | |
| - 94Woody wrote:
- Here you go again.
Yeah they lack the power of the LT1 but just like them they actually run smoothly and get decent fuel mileage so yeah they have driveability. Better mileage than my LT1 actually so it gets driven more. smoothly? K. decent fuel mileage?....mebbe,. better than your lt1?? wow,... mebbe around town with their 323's the tbi will do better than an lt1,. but on the highway?? Hmmm,. pretty sure the lt1 should do better,. thats of course if its tuned right,. new O2's etc,. Guys that drive TBI cars are very ...sensitive,.. Nick | |
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jayoldschool
Posts : 2728 Join date : 2009-06-14
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:16 pm | |
| We all need to pitch in and buy Nick a nice TBI car... | |
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94Woody
Posts : 2439 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:20 pm | |
| HAha, Nick. I'm not sensitive dammit, lol. My LT1 is a GAS HOG, compared to my 305. Course the TBI is a lighter ZERO option sedan so that works in it's favor I suppose. The LT1 is more fun to drive of course, which explains the MPG difference, lol. The LT1 sedan I parted out was very close to getting the VIN plate from my 92 slapped on it and put on the street. I just didn't feel like doing the complete tuneup on it that it needed. Besides, like the ad says it works on any engine with an IAT sensor. Last I checked an LT1 has one | |
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Wagon Collector
Posts : 318 Join date : 2008-12-31
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:40 am | |
| The resistor is just fooling the car to add more fuel because it thinks it's colder than it is outside. On an LT1, you'd be better off re-programming the fuel curve with LT1 Edit or Tunercat... but that's ONLY if you need more fuel to begin with. On a stock engine, not so much. The stock curve has always worked for me.
On the TBI's it's a different story. I know nothing about how to program those... but if I did, I would say the same thing - stock, these cars get plenty of fuel, no reason to trick them into getting more. If you are having a lean condition at WOT, you probably need a new fuel pump or filter. Ditto this for LT1 cars.
For the record, I loved my 305 wagon. One of the best cars I ever owned. It was very slow, and there was no quick way to fix that. | |
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phantom 309
Posts : 5848 Join date : 2008-12-28 Age : 114
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:50 pm | |
| - Wagon Collector wrote:
- The resistor is just fooling the car to add more fuel because it thinks it's colder than it is outside. On an LT1, you'd be better off re-programming the fuel curve with LT1 Edit or Tunercat... but that's ONLY if you need more fuel to begin with. On a stock engine, not so much. The stock curve has always worked for me.
On the TBI's it's a different story. I know nothing about how to program those... but if I did, I would say the same thing - stock, these cars get plenty of fuel, no reason to trick them into getting more. If you are having a lean condition at WOT, you probably need a new fuel pump or filter. Ditto this for LT1 cars.
For the record, I loved my 305 wagon. One of the best cars I ever owned. It was very slow, and there was no quick way to fix that. um kevin,. sense of humour check?/ captain obvious in this thread?? um hello?? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ nick | |
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brokecello Moderator
Posts : 3478 Join date : 2009-05-28 Age : 46 Location : Greenville, SC
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:36 pm | |
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94Woody
Posts : 2439 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:53 pm | |
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Wagon Collector
Posts : 318 Join date : 2008-12-31
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:58 am | |
| - phantom 309 wrote:
um kevin,. sense of humour check?/ captain obvious in this thread?? um hello??
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
nick No sense of humor here, Nick. I do remember stuff like this from my GN days, though... since it wasn't as easy (at the time) to program those cars, some folks put a little things like that to trick sensors at the track. Fine for the 1/4 mile, but you wouldn't want to drive around with them. I remember one that went inline with the TPS. I couldn't have done anything at WOT, though, because like our cars anything over about 4.7 volts put it at max fuel curve anyhow... | |
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phantom 309
Posts : 5848 Join date : 2008-12-28 Age : 114
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:37 am | |
| - Wagon Collector wrote:
No sense of humor here, Nick. . Thats right, i,d forgotten,. but thanks anyway for warning us of this potential scam,. your concern for all us newbies is touching,. you are a caring, concerned, involved member of the wagon community ,.full of amazing facts , and thanks again for reminding us that this highperformance trick doesn't really work,. I feel so much better knowing you are standing on guard for us and helping us along thru this complicated journey of learning about the complicated systems and controls of these new fangled computer operated vehicles,. i,m so lucky to belong to a forum with someone like you who is right on the cutting edge of technology,..it really enhances my sense of security and also helps me learn about those all important mistakes that might ruin my enjoyment of my cars,. i,m really glad i didn't rush out and buy one of those resistors for each and everyone of my cars,. thanks kevin!! Nick oy vey............ | |
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lornejay1
Posts : 850 Join date : 2008-11-05 Age : 62
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:51 am | |
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jayoldschool
Posts : 2728 Join date : 2009-06-14
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:52 am | |
| I'm buying one for each injector! I will have the fastest car ever! | |
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Wagon Collector
Posts : 318 Join date : 2008-12-31
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:52 am | |
| - phantom 309 wrote:
Thats right, i,d forgotten,. but thanks anyway for warning us of this potential scam,. your concern for all us newbies is touching,. you are a caring, concerned, involved member of the wagon community ,.full of amazing facts , and thanks again for reminding us that this highperformance trick doesn't really work,. I feel so much better knowing you are standing on guard for us and helping us along thru this complicated journey of learning about the complicated systems and controls of these new fangled computer operated vehicles,. i,m so lucky to belong to a forum with someone like you who is right on the cutting edge of technology,..it really enhances my sense of security and also helps me learn about those all important mistakes that might ruin my enjoyment of my cars,. i,m really glad i didn't rush out and buy one of those resistors for each and everyone of my cars,. thanks kevin!!
Nick
oy vey............ You're welcome, Nick. I consider it an important mission that I must uphold. Having been blessed with my mad wrenching skills, I feel that it is only fair to help out those who may not have been so lucky. I don't consider myself a hero, but on the other hand, I totally get why people may want to use that word when describing me. Ultimately I try not to let words like hero, guru, wagon extraordinaire, etc. interfere with my mission of helping out the wagon community. Even though I have crazy skillz, I try to stay humble. | |
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MrBuick
Posts : 100 Join date : 2009-02-21 Age : 37 Location : Benton Harbor, MI
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:02 pm | |
| They can still fool people into buying this over priced garbage?? LT1's already run too rich from the factory. Doing this, you will make LESS power. | |
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phantom 309
Posts : 5848 Join date : 2008-12-28 Age : 114
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:11 pm | |
| - Wagon Collector wrote:
I don't consider myself a hero, but on the other hand, I totally get why people may want to use that word when describing me. They do that mostly because of those blue spandex tights of yours,,.. Nick | |
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lornejay1
Posts : 850 Join date : 2008-11-05 Age : 62
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:10 pm | |
| - phantom 309 wrote:
- Wagon Collector wrote:
I don't consider myself a hero, but on the other hand, I totally get why people may want to use that word when describing me. They do that mostly because of those blue spandex tights of yours,,..
Nick I say B.S. without pics | |
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Wagon Collector
Posts : 318 Join date : 2008-12-31
| Subject: Re: Group Purchase? Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:22 am | |
| - lornejay1 wrote:
- phantom 309 wrote:
They do that mostly because of those blue spandex tights of yours,,..
Nick I say B.S. without pics Yikes... careful what you wish for, Lorne! | |
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