So it begins - TOMORROW

I finally got Big Wagon Guy (John) wagon in the shop so this is what it looks like tonight before anything begins.

Does Big John like the color Orange?

Tom

Been waitin' for this.

Tease....

What a rare color. I wish more people had purchased that color.

Ok so yesterday I spent most of it searching for those minor dings and rust issues that get overlooked. Also took the time to take bumper off and start doing some body work. Anything with and "X" on it is getting replaced anything with a circle is obviously the rusted and dented areas.

Side note: I find working by myself I get interrupted so much by customers coming in for quotes and just to BS.

Oh yeah wait til you see what I do to the rear bumper, now that is a tease.

It looks like you have a lot of work ahead of you. Are you shaving the roof?

Is that a GSX under the plastic?

A Roadmaster wagon with the Saturn yellow/black strip paint scheme would be pretty sweet.

Of of these days I'm sending my wagon up to you. Excellent work so far!

200OZ wrote:

It looks like you have a lot of work ahead of you. Are you shaving the roof?

Is that a GSX under the plastic?

A Roadmaster wagon with the Saturn yellow/black strip paint scheme would be pretty sweet.

Or how about a Saturn yellow wagon with a woodgrain GSX stripe?   

Do you have a body shop business, or just a really big play space for your cars?

Mark I've been painting cars 32 years. Basically a hobby that turned into a business.

Ok so I decided to take a few flaws out of the front fenders:









Found another rust spot:



Ok here's a peek at the rear bumper mod.

The beginning



80 grit on the grinder to take off the paint:



First coat of Rubber:



And what it looks like before primer.

1993 Roady-man wrote:

Found another rust spot:

How do you deal with this type of rust spot? I have two of them and want to prevent them from getting any worse. I plan on taking the roof rack off and using some kind of silicon sealant on all the screws when re-attaching. But I don't know how to tackle the rust.   
Can I sand it and paint it with that stop rust paint and be safe? I really don't have the funds to re-paint her big back end let alone her whole body.   

Any pointers would be much appreciated.

What it the name of the product you call "Rubber" for future reference.... Thanks, Jeff

Scoffman: I will be sandblasting this area to remove all top surface rust then applying an etch prime then 2k Primer and any or all pits will be filled in over the primer.

bamalongroof: 3M™ EZ Sand Flexible Parts Repair 05887


Took the day off so no new news on this beast. Although I did prime front clip.

Jerrod, have you looked into the SEM version of the TPO plastic? It is equal to 3M's 05887, but costs half as much. I have the TPO out in the van, but it is raining HEAVILY right now. I'll get the part number in the morning. (the mixing tips do not interchange as one screws on and the other uses a screw cap...)

For those that care... that plastic is used to repair bumpers. It is HUGELY better than Bondo as this IS bumper material and will not crack, peel, or fall off over time.

Thanks for the info on the plastic repair products - for rust (in my Michigan years) I swear by POR 15 even used it on my wagons sole rust spot and also in the spare tire area to prevent future rust. I've used it before with 15 years of no rust returning... Jeff

Superior Finish wrote:

Jerrod, have you looked into the SEM version of the TPO plastic? It is equal to 3M's 05887, but costs half as much. I have the TPO out in the van, but it is raining HEAVILY right now. I'll get the part number in the morning. (the mixing tips do not interchange as one screws on and the other uses a screw cap...)

Honestly I haven't. I have the 3M set up and it's worked so good that I never searched further. Thanks for the info.

We did the same thing to my rear bumper. Shaved the trim holes and also the random line that's below that. I think it looks awesome:

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t31.0-8/1172664_10203750754315972_481962492_o.jpg

That wagon is in for a treat, I bet.

Yes it does, kind of like a roll pan look.

Yeah. Looks like a rollpan but lets you keep the bumper shocks.

I like it.

Just seeing this thread now for the 1st time. Awesome work!! Can't wait to see the finished product.

You know, if you had not taken pictures of those rust areas...I would have argued with you that the car had none   

Oh and as much as I appreciate the Orange on Nick's RMW...I'm going to stay with the OEM color. Can't wait to see it with the SS trim, and SLP hood.

John

Big Wagon Guy wrote:

Oh and as much as I appreciate the Orange on Nick's RMW...

John

Ha ha,.. that was well worded,...

you're too kind,..

need update pics. i know it will look great when its done

Ok Last week was a wash I was so sick I didn't get much done but here is where it is as of yesterday. The rear quarter damage to the driver side was way worse than I expected. Had lots of hammer and dolly work to straighten it but hey it turned out sweet. Also had to use my stud gun to pull the damage out that was in front of the gas cap opening.







in This picture you can see how the panel is bowed upward due to the damage just below it.







The rear door work...

Ok now these pictures are what it looks like after the hammer work and then some fill and sanding.

This is the wagon that has inspired John.

Looking good!

Sorry for delay in posting pix's. To much going on.

Tailgate filled and almost done sanding at this point.



Okay so his hood look good,.. but boy does it have issues. Cracks and fill work needed bad.

Sanded off all the black primer to expose some of the underlying issues.

Donor doors in waiting. Also pix's of it in more primer. And more work done to rear bumper, yup I'm sporadic

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1993 Roady-man wrote:

This is the wagon that has inspired John.

I drove that wagon. One of the nicest cars I have ever driven! Amazing car!

Looking good Sir!!

I notice you skin the whole panel with filler do you find it easier to block the panel that way rather than filling the depression area only? Nice work - I have to redo some areas on my car my painter was bodywork challenged. Jeff

Yes filling the whole panel makes it easier to straighten, been doing it this way for years. That's just me, but hey when the jobs done the final product will be really nice.

It was good to see John today, he came down to see how things were going. Ok so here's a few more update pix's.

Whoa why do you remove all that material? to get behind the panels? Was that whole panel/area shot?Very interesting to see. Could you explain a little more about why you take these steps?

Other than the obvious damage to the mangled front section of the quarter panel,.. the rest of the upper quarter was damaged like the other side. So the easiest thing to do is to replace quarter as shown. Also rear quarter glass on both sides are being replaced since the previous owner glued shut both rear little windows.

Got a little paint on the doors.







And got both the rear glass out, and NO I didn't get them out without breaking.

Impressive work!
Any pics of the inside of the door jamb where the door latch is? The sheet metal around the latch on mine is cracked, just wondering how it attaches behind there.

you talking about the rear quarter? if so i'll post later.

Good Lord man what have you done to my car! All I wanted was a little dent pulled and a buff and polish  

Great seeing you Jarrod, love what your doing. Can't wait to see the old girl back together and spruced up   

Your a very talented individual.

John

Big Wagon Guy wrote:

Good Lord man what have you done to my car! All I wanted was a little dent pulled and a buff and polish

John

Be careful,... thats all i wanted too,.. and look what happened to my light blue wagon,..  

That is dent pulled and polished.   

Ok so I haven't posted in awhile but things here have not been in my favor work wise.

Well since I have to remove quarter from donor car I had to remove some extra material before starting. Unbelievable how much foam they put behind these D pillars.







C pillar



Also found more rust behind glass. Glad we took it out. I wired brushed the whole window surround to clean off old urethane and flaky paint.

This car is going to be amazing when you get done with her! Nice work sir!

The toughest,... and I do mean the toughest part of the job is done. The many hours, and I mean, many hours, this quarter panel is finally off. The seam sealer was just as tough cut as the drilling of spot welds.

Wow that's a lot of work but looks like you are making really good progress!

-Mike

Yes it is but well worth it in the end.

What the backside of a perfectly good looking quarter looks like,.... the things you can't see..