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PostSubject: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeWed Nov 18, 2020 8:03 pm

I wasn't going to start a thread on this car, but may as well.   I only bought it while looking for values on my wrecked 94 to argue with the insurance company, but found this one.  

Here is a thread with the back story

So on to what I have done so far in 21 months of ownership:

put 3800 miles on it in almost 2 years.   I have a company car, so it's a weekender.

Replaced the AC completely.  After 18 months only to find out the OE bolt on the back of the compressor was too long.    Thread here

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Had an issue with it dying all of a sudden.   Found out it was the ICM, after replacing the coil and a bunch of other stuff.

Had an overheating issue which was probably just the cap, but then drove it 150 miles to get home using air cooling and the radiator split too.....so replaced the water pump, coolant cap, hoses, and a new radiator.

installed a billet radiator cover and shiny hockey puck thing.

Matte black wrap on the B and C Pillars and a chrome bowtie on the bumper.




Stuff on hand to install:
2x DIN kit from Etch US along with 2X DIN pioneer head unit and new speakers.
4 Monroe SS shocks (from Jade)
Black wheels and tires from Jade (1000 miles on them)
9C1 front bar (from Jade)
Drilled and slotted front rotors (from Jade)
z-28 Cluster
Corvette covers for engine
3.08 gears and posi (took out of rear that was in Jade)

the entire t-56 swap kit (waiting until the auto dies).

Minimal stuff now, but honestly if any of this beyond the wheels, stereo and shocks get done I'll be surprised.   Motorhome and Healey are more important to me.

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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeThu Nov 19, 2020 9:20 am

Personally I would NOT install those corvette fuel rail covers, if they're the original GM ones. The B-body harness was never designed to fit into that area and if you cause cracks in the insulation while doing it, you'll start to get weird electrical problems that will be impossible to diagnose.

Just saying.

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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeThu Nov 19, 2020 10:52 am

sherlock9c1 wrote:
Personally I would NOT install those corvette fuel rail covers, if they're the original GM ones.  The B-body harness was never designed to fit into that area and if you cause cracks in the insulation while doing it, you'll start to get weird electrical problems that will be impossible to diagnose.

Just saying.

good point. I'll sell them as they are NIB with studs. also have a set used with no studs....
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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeTue Nov 24, 2020 10:13 pm

"Had an overheating issue which was probably just the cap, but then drove it 150 miles to get home using air cooling and the radiator split too.....so replaced the water pump, coolant cap, hoses, and a new radiator."

Just FYI, something to pay attention to. If the overheating happens again (and you need another water pump), make sure you check and replace the coupler where the water pump attaches... an old/bad coupler can make the water pump fail just slowly enough to keep you thinking it's bad parts.
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PostSubject: Air Cooling   Red Car project Icon_minitimeTue Dec 01, 2020 1:45 pm

I am curious what you mean by "drove it 150 miles to get home using air cooling" - do you mean the cooling system itself was completely dry? How did the engine last 150 miles without coolant - was it the middle of winter in Northern Canada or something?
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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeWed Dec 23, 2020 8:28 am

68JCode wrote:
I am curious what you mean by "drove it 150 miles to get home using air cooling" - do you mean the cooling system itself was completely dry?  How did the engine last 150 miles without coolant - was it the middle of winter in Northern Canada or something?

No, it was FL and it was in the 80s. Driving at 70mph pushes enough air over the engine where it will not overheat. As soon as you slow down it will heat up in a hurry though. It runs hotter than normal, say around 225 or so vs. 180, but as long as you are moving and keep the RPM under 2500, you can go quite a ways.

I filled the cooling system and maybe 30 miles into the drive enough leaked out where the temp started to climb. Once enough leaks out the water pump is spinning dry though (but initially thought that was the issue, may have been the radiator the whole time). There was still some water in the block as evidenced when I blew it out with air after removing the WP.

I found this out about small blocks when I had a Ford Van (302 HO) and was on a trip.
Would I do it all the time? Hell no, but if you gotta....
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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeSat Dec 26, 2020 1:17 pm

Umm, I acknowledge that despite times call for desperate measures. But wind at freeway speeds isn’t going to push cooling air in between cylinder walls in the block, or around the exhaust ports inside the heads. So if it’s an emergency, go ahead and roll
the dice. But do so with the knowledge that it IS shortening the life of your motor, and if luck isn’t on your side....you will have to spend big $$ to get your car back on the road. Not preaching, just informing you of the facts
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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2021 12:16 pm

Well, this thing is my DD and with Covid and my wife's car parking behind it, I hardly use it.   5K miles in 2 years!     Anyway, with WF coming up, I got motivated.   I'm doing a double DIN swap (some pics to follow), but last night I got busy and repainted the top of the front bumper cover.

When I bought the car, the front and rear covers are sunburned.   The front was alot worse.  I'm 100% now that it's not original to the car as I'm pretty sure the PO hit something and didn't admit to is when selling.  The radiator shroud is not factory original and was replaced with a new part.  It's was missing the front air dam in the middle and the holes to mount said were not all there.  

Anyway it looked pretty bad and had a few divots in it and cracks.   Only pic I have of it but not showing the divots.  you can see the sunburn....

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I put some bondo on it the other night and sanded it down on Wed.
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Right about now, I got it all taped up and realized the primar and clear I had were no good, so hopped on my bike and raced over to Home D, 2 blocks away. I got this primer (only one they had!) and some automotive gloss clear.
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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2021 12:21 pm

COntinuation as it would only let my upload 4 pics

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After the color. My friend paints show bikes and told my a long time ago that with Duplicolor, to spray it, then hit it with the gloss while it's still wet. I did a mirror like that on Dusty and it still looked good 7 or 8 years later when I sold it.

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10 min after I sprayed, I pulled the tape.

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Got up at 7AM to put the lights back in as I had to take my kid to sailing lessons.

So for a Friday night to finish sand the bumper, wash it, dry it, tape it and prime and paint until peeling the tape was about 2.5 hours. not bad.

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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeSat Mar 13, 2021 5:52 pm

nice! Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeWed Mar 31, 2021 9:55 pm

So before and after the bumper, I swapped in the Etch US double DIN kit.   I took my time and worked on it a little bit at a time.   I did have to epoxy alot of my dash back together before cutting it all up..

I won't go through the step by step, but here is the finished product.  

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Final dash look, you can see the mic on the cluster bezel

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Rear 6x9s I put in.  Still need the 4x6 (have JBLs) upfront.

The etch US kit is really nice and simple if you are careful.  The biggest worry I had was that the 2X Din opening would line up with the face of the unit after I cut up the old dash and glued the new face on it.   I measured a bunch of times.  I almost got it perfect, but a slight miscalculation, has the head unit 1/16" too far out of the dash and it pushes the top of the lower dash out and there is a 1/8-1/4"  gap at the top.

On Stingroo's suggestion, I bought a back-up camera for #25 and wired it up along with a USB and microphone for the Bluetooth.  

It's a Pioneer with a  DVD player AVH-310 (I think)
I ran the backup camera wire through the tailgate wiring tube and tied into the reverse light (to power the camera when in R), and then the video feed and signal wire under the rear plastic in the cargo area, then down and under the door sills to the dash.

The microphone runs up and pops out between the dash bezel and the cluster.  I have it stuck at the 1-2 O'Clock location on the bezel.  

The USB runs out of the back and into the ashtray where I can plug a stick in.  Just bought a 64GB so I can have an entire library in the car.

The kit was a little pricey (on sale for around 150), but it more than made up for it on ease of install and fit and finish.

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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeWed Mar 31, 2021 10:07 pm

Also  put new front Monroe SS shocks on.  The OE ones are done after 26 years (only 76K though).  Didn't take pics as it was an after work thrash with 1:20 of daylight left.  Got it done Smile

You can see the backup camera really well here.  I Ran the wire up through the license plate light hole by loosening up the strip above the plate.

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Got a hitch from 94 Woody and wasted no time on  getting it installed.  Mostly as I went up to Ft. Pierce for another reason yesterday and used it as an excuse and Michael J (has a lift) put it on for me Smile   He's my brother from another mother with wagons AND a yellow GMC like mine.

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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeWed Mar 31, 2021 10:20 pm

LOL, got more done in 3 weeks than the first 2 years combined. I have now put 6K+ in over 2 years. I used to rack up 15K a year on these...

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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeThu Apr 01, 2021 7:42 pm

You sure did get a bunch of work done lately! Cool Red Car project 1f60e
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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeFri Apr 02, 2021 9:55 am

rcktpwrd wrote:
You sure did get a bunch of work done lately! Cool  Red Car project 1f60e

WF was a good motivator lol. I also repainted the black inside the grille as you notice how crappy it looks in the photos above.
Additionally the black was also wearing off of the bottom of the spare wheel well and the red was coming through, so I shot that with flat black as well.

Now that the front shocks are done, the original air shocks in the back have to go. I suppose I'll check the compressor to see it still works, but I do have a set of Monroe SS in hand already, so that's the most likely route.

Add to that I have to wire up for trailer lights now too.
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PostSubject: Re: Red Car project   Red Car project Icon_minitimeFri Apr 02, 2021 9:57 am

Stuff on hand to install:
2x DIN kit from Etch US along with 2X DIN pioneer head unit and new speakers.
2 rear Monroe SS shocks (from Jade)
Black wheels and tires from Jade (1000 miles on them)
9C1 front bar (from Jade)
Drilled and slotted front rotors (from Jade)
z-28 Cluster
3.08 gears and posi (took out of rear that was in Jade) - May swap whole 3.23 rear from 92 wagon, on the fence as I like the 2.56 gas mileage.....

the entire t-56 swap kit (waiting until the auto dies). <_ uh yeah, some day lol.

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