Subject: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Fri May 26, 2023 10:35 am
Just got a "famous" 1991 OCC wagon. it has been sitting for 6 years in JAX FL. I believe it is 1 of a few B-Body 4 passenger wagons.
It has 4 bucket seats and the rear seat area has a Air suspension set up. Custom Pontiac Fog Lights. 96 Mirrors, Firebird hood scoops, 350 4 bolt Holley 750.
I now have 3 Wagons 1991 OCC black 1991 OCC white/grey 1996 Roadie convertible.
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Fri May 26, 2023 7:23 pm
Is that a Lenco shifter in there??????
94Woody
Posts : 2442 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Fri May 26, 2023 8:29 pm
booster wrote:
Is that a Lenco shifter in there??????
It had Hurst Lightning Rods but the seller kept those.
Tomorrow we will be getting this old girl up and running again. Ran off of starting fluid but needs a fuel pump and tank cleaning.
Fred Kiehl
Posts : 7290 Join date : 2009-11-13 Age : 76 Location : Largo, FL 33774
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Fri May 26, 2023 9:59 pm
Original rear glass heater delete. Looks like a Roadmaster cluster...pointers are white. Looks like the original color was gray. The wheels look like Coys.
oldscruiser
Posts : 110 Join date : 2010-06-26 Location : Central Va.
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sat May 27, 2023 3:44 pm
Nice find. Looks like it was sitting on the north side of the house with all that alge. Not sure what kind of seats those are, but I don't think they are olds seats, and i'm fairly sure all olds wagons at least came with a bench seat. I can't make out if thats the cars original color, or it's primer.
Looks like they swapped out the EFI for a carb. ehhhhh.... My camino still has the original carb on it with 300K, however when the engine finally gives up the ghost, I'll go to EFI..., it's just so much better and less trouble than a carb. Beside, most peeps don't know when you start it, you have to pump/prime the peddle one time with a carb to get it to turn over on the 1st or 2nd bump.
My 92 OCC, uses a holley sniper EFI, and it works beautifully! Fun fact..., only about 3500 OCC were made in 92. You figure half are salvage, so that leave about 1700 still out there in the wild, becoming more valuable as time goes on.
Keep us posted on your refurb of this 91.
Fred Kiehl
Posts : 7290 Join date : 2009-11-13 Age : 76 Location : Largo, FL 33774
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sat May 27, 2023 7:24 pm
There were about 4300 OCCs made in 92, and about 7400 in 91. Only the RMWs had shades on the vista window from factory. More like 75% attrition rate.
94Woody
Posts : 2442 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sat May 27, 2023 11:15 pm
oldscruiser wrote:
Nice find. Looks like it was sitting on the north side of the house with all that alge. Not sure what kind of seats those are, but I don't think they are olds seats, and i'm fairly sure all olds wagons at least came with a bench seat. I can't make out if thats the cars original color, or it's primer.
Looks like they swapped out the EFI for a carb. ehhhhh.... My camino still has the original carb on it with 300K, however when the engine finally gives up the ghost, I'll go to EFI..., it's just so much better and less trouble than a carb. Beside, most peeps don't know when you start it, you have to pump/prime the peddle one time with a carb to get it to turn over on the 1st or 2nd bump.
My 92 OCC, uses a holley sniper EFI, and it works beautifully! Fun fact..., only about 3500 OCC were made in 92. You figure half are salvage, so that leave about 1700 still out there in the wild, becoming more valuable as time goes on.
Keep us posted on your refurb of this 91.
It has a 355 in it with long tubes, true duals, etc. Holley 750 DP. Today we changed out the fuel lines to the carb and it fired right up with out ever touching the throttle. It still has the pump in the tank with a regulator under the hood. That was also with half a tank of 6 year old gas in it.
Seats are indeed not from an Olds and are not the original seats. Has 4 buckets. This car is as old as it gets in this community when it comes to modded cars and sat for many years. Air ride, 20s, etc. Car was originally Gray but the previous owner painted it satin black and it has faded.
He bought it this way and he will be slowly transforming the car into what he wants it to be.
Fred is correct, Buick cluster. White pointers that light up with the parking lights.
oldscruiser
Posts : 110 Join date : 2010-06-26 Location : Central Va.
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sun May 28, 2023 12:25 am
Ok, so I'm 800 off..., but in the whole scheme of things being GM, this is still a low number, and I stand by my original statement. Crap, My GMC Typhoon they only made about 2400, so still rare numbers compared to other wagons, and the 92 is still the lowest number made of any wagon, any year with the B Body through 91 to 96. I beg to differ with you with the vista shade. Recheck your history, even though you do know you B bodies. I bought this OCC from the dealer. It was bought new for Royal Olds in Richmond Va., and used as their courtesy vehicle until 1999, when they switched it for a olds silhouette minivan. I was looking for an SS impala, and they had just put this on their used car lot. I went in and purchased it for $6500, with the original build sheet from the factory to the dealer. It included the vista shade in the invoice build out. I will dig that up and find it, so I can scan and post.
Fred Kiehl
Posts : 7290 Join date : 2009-11-13 Age : 76 Location : Largo, FL 33774
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sun May 28, 2023 12:37 am
If it had the vista shade from the dealer, it is the only one I know of.
oldscruiser
Posts : 110 Join date : 2010-06-26 Location : Central Va.
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sun May 28, 2023 12:51 am
Fred, I respect your OCC Knowledge..., I'm just saying this came with the OCC from the dealer. Why would the dealer Up sale to add the option of window shade if it didn't come with it. It's a dealer courtesy vehicle..., it makes no sense from the dealer perspective. Now I have to go find that damn build sheet, and post it. I don't want to look like I'm making this up. Just saying..., it's an olds, that was purchased new by the dealer, and I was the 1st person to own it after 7 years with the dealer.
oldscruiser
Posts : 110 Join date : 2010-06-26 Location : Central Va.
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sun May 28, 2023 12:59 am
Back @ 94woody,
" Buick cluster. White pointers that light up with the parking lights."
How can you not love the OLDS Blue Cluster with red tips? That's my fav thing about the instrument cluster apart from the full gauge package..., in a wagon!
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Fred Kiehl
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Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sun May 28, 2023 1:22 am
oldscruiser wrote:
Fred, I respect your OCC Knowledge..., I'm just saying this came with the OCC from the dealer. Why would the dealer Up sale to add the option of window shade if it didn't come with it. It's a dealer courtesy vehicle..., it makes no sense from the dealer perspective. Now I have to go find that damn build sheet, and post it. I don't want to look like I'm making this up. Just saying..., it's an olds, that was purchased new by the dealer, and I was the 1st person to own it after 7 years with the dealer.
Why did it come with the RM cluster...from the dealer?
oldscruiser
Posts : 110 Join date : 2010-06-26 Location : Central Va.
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sun May 28, 2023 11:31 am
My OCC did not come with a Buick gauge set. You might be confusing me with woody. It's all Olds blue background lighting with olds gauges & tach. You will notice the Red dials in the gauges, with the blue inset in kilometers.
And of course....Olds Gold engine..., which I painted when I had it rebuilt.
94Woody
Posts : 2442 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 49 Location : Ocala,FL
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sun May 28, 2023 4:09 pm
oldscruiser wrote:
Back @ 94woody,
" Buick cluster. White pointers that light up with the parking lights."
How can you not love the OLDS Blue Cluster with red tips? That's my fav thing about the instrument cluster apart from the full gauge package..., in a wagon!
The what now? I didn't build the car, my friend bought it and I was just pointing out to Fred that he was correct about the cluster. Previous owner installed the Buick cluster MANY years ago. Believe he said the tach went out on the Olds one and he installed this in its place.
oldscruiser
Posts : 110 Join date : 2010-06-26 Location : Central Va.
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sun May 28, 2023 4:37 pm
hey woody,
I was just pointing that out about the prior owner. Why someone would switch out the cool blue with RM cluster. But once you told me because of the tach, it gave me some context. I assume you are going another direction with the head light, or are you keeping them?
Fred Kiehl
Posts : 7290 Join date : 2009-11-13 Age : 76 Location : Largo, FL 33774
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sun May 28, 2023 5:20 pm
oldscruiser wrote:
My OCC did not come with a Buick gauge set. You might be confusing me with woody. It's all Olds blue background lighting with olds gauges & tach. You will notice the Red dials in the gauges, with the blue inset in kilometers.
And of course....Olds Gold engine..., which I painted when I had it rebuilt.
That was meant for the OP.
rh96ss
Posts : 315 Join date : 2009-02-26 Location : Port Orange FL or in the air
Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sun May 28, 2023 7:08 pm
oldscruiser wrote:
Not sure what kind of seats those are, but I don't think they are olds seats, and i'm fairly sure all olds wagons at least came with a bench seat.
94Woody wrote:
Seats are indeed not from an Olds and are not the original seats. Has 4 buckets. This car is as old as it gets in this community when it comes to modded cars and sat for many years. Air ride, 20s, etc. Car was originally Gray but the previous owner painted it satin black and it has faded.
They are Oldsmobile seats. They just aren't Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser seats. They are from an Oldsmobile Achieva from early to mid 90s. Used to see them in junk yards all the time when I was frequenting them hunting for parts. I remember when Sean put them in.
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94Woody
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Subject: Re: My new acquisition 1991 OCC Black Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:50 pm
Got the air ride working today and took care of the hinges/handle/struts on the hatch glass. Even found some grab handle lenses in my parts pile.