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PostSubject: Stiffer springs needed   Stiffer springs needed Icon_minitimeTue Sep 07, 2010 10:39 pm

Need all 4 stiffer springs to replace the old wore out ones on the wagon.

Requirements:
MUST maintain stock height, otherwise I can't get out of the driveway.
Must be stiffer than stock without feeling "bolted to the chassis"
Would like all 4 to come from the same manufacturer.

Any ideas, recommendations?
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PostSubject: Re: Stiffer springs needed   Stiffer springs needed Icon_minitimeTue Sep 07, 2010 11:06 pm

Krzdimond wrote:
Need all 4 stiffer springs to replace the old wore out ones on the wagon.

Requirements:
MUST maintain stock height, otherwise I can't get out of the driveway.
Must be stiffer than stock without feeling "bolted to the chassis"
Would like all 4 to come from the same manufacturer.

Any ideas, recommendations?
airbags,...

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PostSubject: Re: Stiffer springs needed   Stiffer springs needed Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 4:28 am

Got them, last 2 sets leak after a year or so. Cheaper to just go mechanical
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PostSubject: Re: Stiffer springs needed   Stiffer springs needed Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 10:04 am

I left the stock strings on my car but put coil-over overload shocks on the back and Monroe Severe Service shocks on the front. The back is perfect, but I may put KYB's on the front as those Monroe shocks are SO stiff you do feel more bumps than you should from the front.

But bottom line is the cars rides very stable now with no bobbing, and the ride hieght was not changed. Just my 2-cents!
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PostSubject: Re: Stiffer springs needed   Stiffer springs needed Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 9:43 pm

I have the 550012's up front and the 550013's out back with Airlift 1000's. Car does not sit level, there is a 1/2" difference between left and right. 3/4" difference in the front. That's not shocks, that's solely springs; on all 4 corners. I just figured that they have sagged a bit over the years and towing a 3400# trailer around isn't helping much.

I know that there is a mathematical formula to figure which corner is weak, but it is just easier to change them all.....


This is what I mean.....

Empty, Passenger side:

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Empty, Drivers side:

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Loaded, Drivers side: Lowered trailer onto hitch and waited 30 min for the bags to inflate......

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Loaded Passenger side:

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Moog has a set of springs for the wagon that are "OEM". Great, Is that F40 or F41 OEM?

Anyone know what the stock (new) unloaded -removed- rear spring height is? i am going to remove them to try and fix the bags......again...... and can measure the springs out of the car..... Will wore out springs be shorter than new out of the car?
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PostSubject: Re: Stiffer springs needed   Stiffer springs needed Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 10:20 pm

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That's not shocks, that's solely springs; on all 4 corners

You are forgetting body bushings. Your springs might be fine.

For same height springs, but higher rate, contact Bill Harper (Navy Lifer) on the ISSF. He has the PNs you are in need of.
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PostSubject: Re: Stiffer springs needed   Stiffer springs needed Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 10:26 pm

Didn't think of that...... Will measure the frame in the morning. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Stiffer springs needed   Stiffer springs needed Icon_minitimeWed Sep 08, 2010 11:14 pm

Been on the net for an hour now and cannot find ONE reference to body mount bushings. Are they even avail? Got a part #? I think there were 3 different ones needed ( in different colors, no less) But I did manage to find a brand new, from the factory floorpan...and an "axle housing... Chevrolet....wagon....with disc brakes.....2:56.... non-limited slip"(GMPartsdirect) for a cool $1157 (axle)

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PostSubject: Re: Stiffer springs needed   Stiffer springs needed Icon_minitimeFri Jan 28, 2011 1:13 pm

Did you end up replacing spring? I'm looking
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PostSubject: Re: Stiffer springs needed   Stiffer springs needed Icon_minitimeThu Mar 03, 2011 10:06 pm

Im new, but it would be great to have part #'s for suggested parts.
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PostSubject: Re: Stiffer springs needed   Stiffer springs needed Icon_minitimeTue Apr 05, 2011 6:57 pm

Another bump. Did you ever get the p/n's for the stiffer rear springs? Autozone shows two types. I'm curious which ones I need too.

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