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PostSubject: Headliner Removal?   Headliner Removal? Icon_minitimeThu May 05, 2011 6:07 pm

Okay so... how do the headliners come off of these things? I searched and I see it hasn't been asked. Mine is in great shape, but I was scrapyarding the other day and found a Caprice wagon (mostly picked over). I did however, snag an auto-dimming mirror with map lights.

I'm assuming since it came from a Caprice, my Caprice should have the plug under the headliner too... it doesn't seem very GM-like to have two different harnesses, so this SHOULD be a plug and play mod, yes?

So how does the headliner come off? Can I just pull enough to get the front half down a bit to plug the harness in and put it back? Or does it all have to come down? Info appreciated. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Headliner Removal?   Headliner Removal? Icon_minitimeThu May 05, 2011 10:26 pm

Call me young grasshopper....


I'm not 100% sure what year GM started JIT (just in time) on the assembly line. I have a whole powerseat harness outta a 92 RMW ready to go into my 92 Caprice incase they didn't drop the wiring in there. Havenn't got that far with it yet, but summers here and you are in town, so I guess it's time to find out...

Seriously, call me and I'll tell you how to drop the front half of the headliner. basically, take out the a & B pillars and that should give you the room to see if the wiring is there.
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PostSubject: Re: Headliner Removal?   Headliner Removal? Icon_minitimeThu May 05, 2011 10:27 pm

You free tomorrow during the day any time? I'll give you a call at a more human hour (i.e. when it's not so dark out where I lose all sorts of crap).

My 92 FSM shows the wiring there, so apparently it was at the very least an OPTION... but I don't know if it's actually in my car.
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PostSubject: Re: Headliner Removal?   Headliner Removal? Icon_minitimeSat Jul 13, 2013 12:54 am

So if and when I do find a great replacement headliner in a wagon at a wrecking yard, how on erath does one get it home? Considering its length and width, I just dont seeing it laying nicely in a wagon?
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PostSubject: Re: Headliner Removal?   Headliner Removal? Icon_minitimeSat Jul 13, 2013 8:11 am

Flip up all your seats and headrests, gently slide it in, then go get it in the front seat carefully and drive home carefully.


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PostSubject: Re: Headliner Removal?   Headliner Removal? Icon_minitimeSat Jul 13, 2013 12:16 pm

Wiring won't be there.
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PostSubject: Re: Headliner Removal?   Headliner Removal? Icon_minitimeSat Jul 13, 2013 2:47 pm

Makes sense. Every headliner I have come across so far was trashed but as soon as I find a pristine one I'm on it!
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PostSubject: Re: Headliner Removal?   Headliner Removal? Icon_minitimeWed Jul 24, 2013 10:44 pm

The mirror must have a wire for the auto dim to turn off when you put the car in reverse. You should go back to the yard, and get the harness from the donor of the mirror. The harness runs down the B pillar and plugs into a connector at the base of the B pillar. You may still have to run a wire to the steering column to activate the turn off when in reverse. It may even require the transmission position switch from the donor car. Some of the transmission position switches have a clamp and screw, and some are just clipped to the column. The ones with the clamp and screw have different, and more connectors than the clip on variety. I would suggest that you look at the wiring diagram for a 94-96 for the proper connections.

If you got the mirror from a 94, it has an adapter harness (about 2 inches long) with a 4 pin, and a 1 pin connector on one end, and a single rectangular one on the other end. The mirror itself is the same as a 95-96 with a long rectangular connector at the back.

You have to remove the inner clips for the visors, the driver's side visor, A pillar, B pillar, both driver's side courtesy lights, and then you have the Velcro strips to separate. The center courtesy light is part of the roof harness.

The Caprice headliners are easier to remove intact. The RM and OCC liners are easy to break at the vista window. I picked up a Caprice headliner, and reinforced the area beside the vista window from the top side with carbon fiber (you could use 6 oz. fiberglass cloth). You could repair a cracked/broken RM or OCC one if you have all of the parts, and can get them aligned. It only took about 6 inches by 2 feet for each side. I then cut out the hole for the vista window, and used the extra material to patch the hole for the courtesy light. I used the original headliner as a template, and cut holes for the side courtesy lights (front and rear seat). I used a Dremel with a 1/8 inch side mill to cut the holes. It took about 10 min. to cut them all.

I had it covered to match my interior.
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