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The LDM has air shocks also. Other than the G80, the suspension is identical between it and the 95. Here's another one, my black 94 parts car is a non-tow pack but has the F40 susp. and a factory oil cooler.

I just about believe there is no differnce between "Dynaride" and "Gran Touring Suspension" other than a plaque on the dash.

Jon
Compnine says all LT1 wagons had the F40 suspension. As far as the oil cooler goes, I guess it was optional, but it's anyone's guess as to why so many non tow pack cars have it. It appears to only be on a car if that car had the V92 or the V03 "extra capacity cooling". For the Caprice wagon in 1994 every civilian car had the built in oil cooler, and every car including the 1A2's had either the V92 or the V03. But for a '94 RMW it was different: All wagons that had oil coolers had either heavy cooling (tow pack) or extra capacity cooling, so that leaves exactly 2,000 without either. Now as far as the Gran Touring thing goes, it's gotta be a combo of two (or more) options makes it a GT. Just need to find out what that combination is!
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This links to the same information I posted for the 1996.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/1996/buick/roadmaster/estate_wagon/657/packages_options/index.html


This site has the 1995 listings. I notice that the posi was required for the tow pack in 1995.
http://www.automobilemag.com/am/1995/buick/roadmaster/packages_options.html


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GRAN TOURING/TRAILER PKG  - $375
Trailer towing preparation; Rear wheels; Rear tires; Axle ratio :1; Auxiliary oil cooler; Heavy duty alternate suspension; Rear suspension with stabilizer bar; Heat reflective glass; Excludes: [SA] NO PKG DESIRED; Includes: [G67] Suspension levelling; Requires: [G80] Limited slip differential
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Huh... Wonder what makes these cars different than CA emission cars: NG1 MA EMISSIONS - $100
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Thanks for the info, Nick. So maybe Gran Touring is a combo of V92 plus G80. It would explain why it says "V92- GRAN TOURING/TRAILER PKG" for '95 and '96. Maybe since the '94 RMW's could have a V92 with no posi that wouldn't have added up to make the GT. That would explain Jon's Dynaride '94 with no posi and a tow pack... we need some more input from tow pack RMW owners... specifically I'd like to know what the dash plaque says on '94 RMW's with V92 and G80.
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We have a 1994 RMW, Dynaride plaque, V92 trailer provisions, but no G80 posi.
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OK... now I'm really confused as to what the hell "Gran Touring" denotes, at least on the '94 RMW that is. I found a few '94 RMW's on eBay. A few of them had air shocks (G67), G80 and V92 and still said Dynaride. Then I found one with G67, G80 and V92 that said Gran Touring, so now I have absolutely no clue what that plaque means!

You can go to compnine.com and see for yourselves:
This one says Gran Touring: 1G4BR82P2RR413808
And this one says Dynaride: 1G4BR82P6RR423645

What the heck is different about these two cars that makes one warrant having the GT badge????
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Lynol wrote:
Hmmmm... I don't see anything to specifically denote the "Gran Touring" package in the RPO codes available for the RMW's.

There won't be - remember this was done to as a way to offer something that wasn't approved.

Lynol wrote:
I thought maybe it was possible that V92 plus G80 equals Gran Touring, but JaySS' '96 doesn't have a posi yet has Gran Touring plaque, so that would debunk that theory. Jon, does your '94 LDM have air shocks (G67)? Could it be V92 plus G67 air shocks equals Gran Touring? Jay, does your '96 RMW have air shocks?

Yes, it does. As stated above, it's quite certain all V92's have the air shocks.

Lynol wrote:
OK... now I'm really confused as to what the hell "Gran Touring" denotes, at least on the '94 RMW that is. I found a few '94 RMW's on eBay. A few of them had air shocks (G67), G80 and V92 and still said Dynaride. Then I found one with G67, G80 and V92 that said Gran Touring, so now I have absolutely no clue what that plaque means!

You can go to compnine.com and see for yourselves:
This one says Gran Touring: 1G4BR82P2RR413808
And this one says Dynaride: 1G4BR82P6RR423645

What the heck is different about these two cars that makes one warrant having the GT badge????

Don't overthink this. If both are original, either there is another option that separates the two, or it could be an assembly line mistake / shortage that had the second one fitted with the base suspension emblem.

There is one thing that would be nice to nail down, that is the Sungate windshield - RPO A23. The above links imply it was part of V92. The '96 full line brochure says it is standard on all wagons. My wagon doesn't show it as equipped in the Compnine search (as much as that can be trusted).

Additionally, the option code isn't listed as even available on RMW according to the VIN decoder. Can anyone prove / disprove that it was standard or optional? If it was optional, what option or option package were required to ensure the vehicle they were ordering would receive it?

Some build sheets would be very helpful, but beyond the abbreviated cowl sticker under the LH fender, I've never seen anything resembling one in any of these cars. Anyone know if they exist and where they are placed?

- J
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JaySS wrote:

...Additionally, the option code isn't listed as even available on RMW according to the VIN decoder. Can anyone prove / disprove that it was standard or optional? If it was optional, what option or option package were required to ensure the vehicle they were ordering would receive it?
- J
If the A23 RPO is not there as a choice in Compnine, that would mean it was not an option; so your brochure would be correct in stating that it is standard on all wagons -BUT that's only for '94 to '96 RMWs. If you look up '93 or older wagons, you will find A23 listed as an option.
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1SE PRESTIGE PKG - $1,290
Headlight control with dusk sensor; Driver and passenger illuminated vanity mirror; Seat; Cornering lights/curb illumination; Includes: [1SD] LUXURY PKG And [AU4] DOOR LOCKS-AUTO PROGRAM. And [AU0] Remote Keyless Entry

V03 Cooling Package -
Excludes: [V92] Gran Touring/Trailer Towing Package

V92 Gran Touring/Trailer Towing Package -
2.930:1 axle ratio; Auxiliary transmission cooler; Heavy duty alternate suspension; Heat reflective glass; Excludes: [V03] Cooling Package; Includes: [G67] Suspension - Auto. Level

Z27 LIMITED WAGON PKG - $1,870
Front seats cup holders; Seat; Automatic operation rear view mirror; Head restraints on front seats with rotational adjustment; Carpet floor mats; Passenger and driver power heated door mirrors; Driver and passenger illuminated vanity mirror; Headlight control with dusk sensor; Leather covered steering wheel; Cornering lights/curb illumination; Excludes:
[1SD] LUXURY PKG And [1SE] PRESTIGE PKG;
Includes: [AU0] Remote Keyless Entry And [AU4] DOOR LOCKS-AUTO PROGRAM.


I'm confused. My 95 RMW has both 1SE and Z27, but that description makes it sound like they are mutually exclusive.

Back to the original research, it has V92 (Tow package) and G80 (limited slip) and has the Gran Touring Suspension plaque. I do not have the A23 (sungate windshield) listed nor does the windshield have the sungate logo. (It is made by LOF and has DOT code DW1274 which is supposed to be "PPG brand, Shaded, non-reflective". It could be a replacement by a PO.)
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buickwagon wrote:
...I do not have the A23 (sungate windshield) listed nor does the windshield have the sungate logo. (It is made by LOF and has DOT code DW1274 which is supposed to be "PPG brand, Shaded, non-reflective". It could be a replacement by a PO.)
There's no A23 code for '94 and newer RMWs, only '93 and older could have that code. The Sungate was standard on all '94 to '96 RMWs, and as such, would not have a code, sort of like how the woodgrain or power windows was standard and had no code. If your car doesn't have a Sungate, it's windshield was replaced.
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buickwagon wrote:
...I do not have the A23 (sungate windshield) listed nor does the windshield have the sungate logo. (It is made by LOF and has DOT code DW1274 which is supposed to be "PPG brand, Shaded, non-reflective". It could be a replacement by a PO.)

1274 is the industry glass code for the standard windshield, 1275 is the code for the heat reflective style. Replacement heat reflective glass not manufacturer by PPG will not be labeled Sungate.

Lynol wrote:
[There's no A23 code for '94 and newer RMWs, only '93 and older could have that code. The Sungate was standard on all '94 to '96 RMWs, and as such, would not have a code, sort of like how the woodgrain or power windows was standard and had no code. If your car doesn't have a Sungate, it's windshield was replaced.

Slow down a bit here, we don't know that is true just yet, that will take more information to prove. At the moment we have only some pre-production literature to base it on.

We do need more people with Sungate LT1 Roadmasters to tell us what options the car has, and if there is an A23 code on the SPID.

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A huge thank you to Nick Danger and JaySS as I am learning a lot about my 95 RMW and how to
interpret the compnine information into laymens terms.It would be great if someone was aable to
produce an replacement window sticker for our wagons!
Thanks Again
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JaySS wrote:
Slow down a bit here, we don't know that is true just yet, that will take more information to prove. At the moment we have only some pre-production literature to base it on.

We do need more people with Sungate LT1 Roadmasters to tell us what options the car has, and if there is an A23 code on the SPID.

- J

Yes, agreed. What I'm basing the Sungate being standard thing on is the brochure says it was standard on all RMWs and there's no A23 RPO code available for '94, 5, or 6 RMWs. But the info Nick posted lists it as being part of the tow package, so possibly something is incorrect. Either the brochure erroneously lists it as standard, compnine is missing the A23 RPO as an option, or the options information from motortrend.com is incorrect in stating the Sungate was part of the tow pack.... definitely need more Sungate wagon input.
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MY 95 RMW has pretty much all the options listed according to Compnine (F40 GW9 G67 G80 V92
) with no A23 but mine does have the Sungate windshield and GT plaque.

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JaySS wrote:
.......

Some build sheets would be very helpful, but beyond the abbreviated cowl sticker under the LH fender, I've never seen anything resembling one in any of these cars. Anyone know if they exist and where they are placed?

- J

I actually found a build sheet under the right front seat on a certain 94 WB4 I parted. I kept it, will try to pull it out tonight and do a compine on the VIN for comparison, it was a tow pack car but not G80

If I get a chance this weekend, I'll check my 96 RMW SPID too. I know it's G80 and V92 but can't remember the badging on the dash.
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I want a sungate windshield so badly. Sad
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I want a sungate windshield so badly. Sad
They do look cool, I don't exactly know what they're supposed to do, but mine sure does it all day long. Interesting Sungate story; Bought a GPS many years ago, worked great on the trip home in my truck. Tried to use it in a friend's RMW later, couldn't get a signal with it. Tried everything, concluded it was broken, and exchanged it for another unit. New one has the same problem. So I tried it in my truck, worked fine! So I put it in the RMW again, still no signal. Stuck the GPS to the side window, and BAM! It started working. It was at that point I realized in was the Sungate blocking the signal! I must have looked like a moron driving around with that thing on the side window of my OCC whenever I took a trip...
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Sungate windshields also block EzPass/Fastlane transponders from working properly.
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Sungate windshields also block EzPass/Fastlane transponders from working properly.

No Sungate on the Vista roof!!
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Cadet57 wrote:
Sungate windshields also block EzPass/Fastlane transponders from working properly.

No Sungate on the Vista roof!!

Nope. Does it work up there thou?
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Cadet57 wrote:
BigBlackBeaSSt wrote:
Cadet57 wrote:
Sungate windshields also block EzPass/Fastlane transponders from working properly.

No Sungate on the Vista roof!!

Nope. Does it work up there thou?

yup.......... It kinda freeks out the toll workers because it trips the EZPass late and the think you are going to stop.... Wink
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I have read that the sungate windshield has two small areas, on on either side of the rear-view mirror, that are able to pass RF without interference.
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My 94 RMW with V92 and G80 says Dyna Ride.

I heard at least on the 94s they slapped those plaques on willy nilly and they don't mean much (read that on ISSF a couple years back before the GDL 2K9)
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My 94 RMW with V92 and G80 says Dyna Ride.

I heard at least on the 94s they slapped those plaques on willy nilly and they don't mean much (read that on ISSF a couple years back before the GDL 2K9)
I'm starting to believe that... I think the Gran Touring suspension usually means tow pack, but I'm seeing Dynaride badged cars with the same exact stuff so yeah...
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However, I thought Dynaride was cars with a softer suspension. As if a Roadmaster didnt have soft suspension to begin with. lol.
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Does "COMPONENT-COMPUTER SELECTED SUSPENSION SUSP" have anything to do with it? I have 4 of them (6TM, 7TM, 8RN, 9RN). Or maybe "SUSPENSION,HEAVY DUTY,FRONT AND REAR HVY DUTY SUSP(F40)"?
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buickwagon wrote:
Does "COMPONENT-COMPUTER SELECTED SUSPENSION SUSP" have anything to do with it? I have 4 of them (6TM, 7TM, 8RN, 9RN). Or maybe "SUSPENSION,HEAVY DUTY,FRONT AND REAR HVY DUTY SUSP(F40)"?
F40 was standard on all '94 to '96 wagons (Caprice wagons too), As far as the suspension RPO's, yours is different from the two '94 RMW's I ran on compnine. One said Dynaride and one said Gran Touring, but there were no differences at ALL. They both had 6TM and 7TM but the others were 8RP and 9RP. I wonder if maybe like Sprocket said the dash plaques were installed all willy nilly for 1994. I just ran a '95 RMW with tow pack and Gran Touring badge, and it has the same 4 suspension RPOs as yours. Maybe that one '94 I ran with the Gran Touring plaque was wrong... maybe it was a Dynaride car and the wrong badge was put on. This is on your '95 I take it, and you mentioned it has a Grand Touring badge, so I think you might be on to something... I'm interested to know now what suspension RPO's other people's wagons with the Gran Touring plaque are. Perhaps the 8RN and 9RN are how you can tell GT's apart... time to find some more VINs!
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Lynol wrote:
This is on your '95 I take it, and you mentioned it has a Grand Touring badge,

Yes and yes.
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Darn the 8RP 9RP vs. 8RN 9RN thing isn't it. Only '94 RMW's had two different ones offered. (the RP and RN ones) Production numbers were split between about half of the cars. All '95s and '96s had the 8RN-9RN suspension RPOs. Must have just been some running change during the '94 model year.
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Darn the 8RP 9RP vs. 8RN 9RN thing isn't it. Only '94 RMW's had two different ones offered. (the RP and RN ones) Production numbers were split between about half of the cars. All '95s and '96s had the 8RN-9RN suspension RPOs. Must have just been some running change during the '94 model year.

You may be onto some sort of explanation.

Have we seen any '95 or '96 RMW's with Dynaride & RN spring codes?

If not, and we take the '94 plaque assignments as currently suspect, then it would still hold.

We still could use more input on this and the Sungate questions. So everyone feel free to up their post count with some information that is actually relevant to the forum for a change.

- J
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Is this a great OCD thread or what!!??!

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I ran my 95 RMW with the towing package and here is what I have found.
1. I do have a sungate windshield, but see no RPO listed on compnine or on my SPID for it
2. I have the Grand Touring plaque on my dash
3. Codes I do have:
V92-TRAILER PROVISIONS TRLR PROVISIONS
6TM, 7TM-COMPONENT-COMPUTER SELECTED SUSPENSION SUSP
8RN, 9RN-COMPONET-COMPUTER SELECTED SUSPENSION SUSP
F40-SUSPENSION,HEAVY DUTY,FRONT AND REAR HVY DUTY SUSP
GW9-AXLE,REAR,2.93 RATIO 2.93R
G67-LEVEL CONTROL,AUTO AIR AUTO AIR LVL CONT
G80-AXLE,REAR,POSITRACTION,LIMITED SLIP POSITRACTION L/SLIP R/AXL
JA2-BRAKE SYSTEM,HEAVY WEIGHT,DISC,DRUM HVY WT BRK SYS
JM4-BRAKE SYSTEM,POWER FRONT DISC,REAR DRUM,ANTI-LOCK(CAST IRON) ANTILOCK DISC/DRUM BRK
KC4-COOLING SYSTEM,ENGINE OIL ENG OIL CLG
KD1-COOLING SYSTEM,TRANSMISSION OIL TRANS OIL CLG

I beleive that is all I have regarding the trailer stuff, hope that helps someone
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JaySS wrote:
Lynol wrote:
Darn the 8RP 9RP vs. 8RN 9RN thing isn't it. Only '94 RMW's had two different ones offered. (the RP and RN ones) Production numbers were split between about half of the cars. All '95s and '96s had the 8RN-9RN suspension RPOs. Must have just been some running change during the '94 model year.

You may be onto some sort of explanation.

Have we seen any '95 or '96 RMW's with Dynaride & RN spring codes?

If not, and we take the '94 plaque assignments as currently suspect, then it would still hold.

We still could use more input on this and the Sungate questions. So everyone feel free to up their post count with some information that is actually relevant to the forum for a change.

- J
All '95 and '96 RMWs have the RN suspension PRO codes, with the exception of I believe 2 '95 wagons which had a completely different code (not RP either). So we're barking up the wrong tree with this spring code thing. I'm willing to conclude that the Gran Touring Suspension plaque should designate V92 towing package, but that for '94 at least, the right badges didn't get on the right cars all the time. As far as the Sungate thing goes, does anyone have any other brochures to reference for '94 to '96? If all three years brochure claim it to be standard then I'm going with that. Also, if anyone has a '94 to '96 RMW without a tow pack and it has a Sungate, and no A23 RPO then I would also then conclude the Sungate was standard.
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Ok, the black 94 is a non tow pack with a Sungate and no A23 RPO.
Do I win anything?


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My 92 didn't have a separate RPO for Sungate. GPS worked fine through it, btw. Didn't bother with the radar detector, though.
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Is there any correlation between "LEVEL CONTROL,AUTO AIR AUTO AIR LVL CONT(G67)" and the Gran Touring suspension badge?
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94X2 wrote:
Ok, the black 94 is a non tow pack with a Sungate and no A23 RPO.

Do I win anything?

Jon

Yes, for the timely sharing of requested information you & David get the admiration & appreciation of the entire forum.

Well, some of us anyway.

My RMW has the RN spring codes and the windshield has been replaced with a Safelite model. It has the DW1275 & "Solar Shaded" markings, but not the distinctive color of the PPG units.

Further checking indicates that the model number can change manufacturer-to-manufacturer and isn't necessarily consistent.

Bueller?

Anyone?

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I talked to a friend of mine today who is in the auto glass industry. He says that the industry generally uses the PPG DOT numbers as a standardized cross-reference and often marks their windshields with the PPG number (they will also have their own DOT code elsewhere).

DW1274 is the PPG DOT code for the regular windshield and DW1275 is the PPG code for the sunshade version. Some manufacturers may be using the DW1275 code for the cross reference on the basis of fitment rather than technology, so don't trust that unless it's a PPG made windshield.
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94X2 wrote:
Ok, the black 94 is a non tow pack with a Sungate and no A23 RPO.
Do I win anything?


Jon
You get a gold star. Pretty sure that settles the Sungate thing. Sounds like it was standard equipment then.
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Just to clarify the air ride was part of the tow package on the LT1 Caprice wagons as well, right?
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Dynaride plaque . . . GW9 - 2.93 ratio . . F40, G80, G67 - auto leveling . . . . and V92
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Lynol wrote:
Sprocket wrote:
My 94 RMW with V92 and G80 says Dyna Ride.

I heard at least on the 94s they slapped those plaques on willy nilly and they don't mean much (read that on ISSF a couple years back before the GDL 2K9)
I'm starting to believe that... I think the Gran Touring suspension usually means tow pack, but I'm seeing Dynaride badged cars with the same exact stuff so yeah...
My 94 RMW tow pak equiped car has a Dynaride plaque too. As a GM retiree with 10 years in the material department I can tell you that if there was any shortage of the correctly badged IP bezel they would have put another one on in its place to keep the line moving in a heart beat, and by any shortage I mean the manufacturer had problems keeping up with production, the truck delivering it was stuck in traffic or broke down, (this was not too long after GM started using the "just in time" delivery system) or if the fork lift driver was off getting parts for some one else, the line operator would have been told to just grab the correct colored one with the different badge.
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Makes sense. My tow-pack car has the Gran Touring plaque.
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Sprocket wrote:
My 94 RMW with V92 and G80 says Dyna Ride.

I heard at least on the 94s they slapped those plaques on willy nilly and they don't mean much (read that on ISSF a couple years back before the GDL 2K9)

Our 94 tow pack wagon has a Dynaride plaque.
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i've got a rare bird 96 wb4, v92, g80, n91 steelies with cloth and 80k miles...Light adriatic met. Got rid of the spokes and put on some alloys instead. Otherwise bone stock.
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Lynol wrote:
we need some more input from tow pack RMW owners... specifically I'd like to know what the dash plaque says on '94 RMW's with V92 and G80.

94 RMW: V92, G80, 6TM, 7TM, 8RP, 9RP, G67, GW9, JA2, JM4, KC4, KD1, V08 with Sungate windshield and Dynaride dash plaque.
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Just wondering if the tow pack has the 2.92 gears and the same mileage rating as the 2.56, are the 4l60e internal ratios different to achieve the same final drive ratio?
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