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PostSubject: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeThu Dec 01, 2011 12:01 am

I'm not sure how my car got to be the WOTM, because there are so many cooler wagons out there.

The 1994 Roadmaster wagon is the second wagon I’ve had, but it's just the first one I’ve enjoyed.  I have driven four-cylinder hatchback cars since the 1980s.  Unlike some car sluts I could mention, I'm into long term relationships.  Not counting Mrs Danger’s cars, I've owned only six cars in 28 years.
 
Mrs Danger loves a big V-8.  When we first started dating, she drove a 1991 Caprice, gray-green, with the 9C1 police package.  It was worn out and ugly.  She lived in a bad neighborhood, one block from a crackhouse.  When some crackhead pried open her trunk, she just left it bent and didn’t replace the lock cylinder.  She kept a big screwdriver in the front seat to open the trunk.  When cars on her street got stolen by joy-riders, she tossed a hundred and fifty pounds of old magazines and newspapers in the back seat.  Her reasoning was that if joy-riders had to spend ten minutes clearing out the back seat so their buddies to ride in it, they would find another car to steal.  Besides, she never had to clean out the trash.  When I sold that car, I didn’t keep anything about it. There are no photos left of that car. 
 
Mrs Danger moved in with me, and I decided it was time to get her a nicer car.  She was interested in a station wagon, so we looked at them.  I discovered that there were two sizes of GM wagons, and the bigger size was much cooler.  We bought a high-mileage 1989 Buick Electra Estate Wagon from a guy who drove it to his house on the lake twice a week.  The house was 150 miles away.  So although the car had over 200k on the clock, it was all interstate mileage.  The odometer actually said 40k, and the guy was pretty sure that he'd rolled it over twice.

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This picture is from when I put the car up for sale. You can see that the sun has bleached woodgrain completely white on top.

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The reason why I had the car for sale.
 
We got married soon after I bought her the Electra Estate Wagon.  On the honeymoon, we stopped at Painted Desert National Park in Arizona, on our way to the Grand Canyon.

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I get to kiss the bride.

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Me on our honeymoon roadtrip.

Well, the Olds 307 engine on that car was a dog.  It was anemic, only having 140 hp back when it was new, and it was hard to work on.  Here's a picture I took of the top of the engine one day when I got frustrated with all the hoses.  I was going to replace the seals on the valve covers that day, but there were so many hoses with so many brittle plastic joints that I gave up after doing the driver's side.
 
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Car spaghetti.

I kept putting money into that car. I kept taking it to a mechanic. Mrs Danger kept getting  stranded.  Nick shows inability to learn.
 
I decided to replace it with an LT1 Buick wagon.  It still had a bed long enough for an art show, it had the low center of gravity of a sedan, and it wasn't anemic.  It me took about three months of serious searching to find a good car within 500 miles.  There just aren't that many wagons in the Mountain Time Zone. Ebay was useless.  Some guy in Waterloo New York bought up all the good wagons and shipped them farther away from me.  When I discovered the search engines for Craigslist, I started making progress.  I found a Buick LT1 wagon with 91k that was only 350 miles away!  Yay! 
 
The car had a dent in the quarter panel, and the back window was held up with a shower curtain rod.  The seller was a realtor who said that he wanted to fix it up for himself, but he’d run out of money when the Phoenix real estate market collapsed.  He said that he had spent two weeks cleaning the interior, because the previous owners had sprayed the whole thing with Pepsi.  I believe him.  The ash trays had a quarter inch of dried syrup in them.  I later found about a gallon of old candy, crayons, and Happy Meal toys under the back seat.  But it ran and stopped fine, and the engine sounded good, and it had the tow package.  It was sooo much nicer than the Electra.  I bought it.  We weren't even home when we found the first problem: we crossing the desert and the gas gauge still read 30% when the car ran out of gas. But it was still nicer than the Electra.
 
Over the next few months, I learned that the LT1 wagon has a huge aftermarket and lots of online support.  Compared to European cars, parts are really cheap.  And the car is just plain fun to work on.  

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This shows how much easier it is to work on the LT1.

First I did the basic stuff you have to do with every used car, like flush the antifreeze, replace the brakes and tires, and so forth. Then I fixed the broken things, like the window rollers and the tailgate latch.  Then I started in with the small aftermarket stuff, like Tim's EZ bleeder valve.   Then I bought more expensive stuff like Gary's cables.  Then Airlift helper bags, Bilstein shocks, boxed sway arms, and Navylifer's rear sway bar.  By then, I was addicted.  When I told Mrs Danger that I wanted to spend $1200 on the exhaust system, she gave that look of wifely understanding and said, "You really want to do it, don't you?"
 
We’ve driven the wagon to art shows in the region and on vacations around the West.  I post pictures from our vacations in this thread.

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An art show packed in the wagon.

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A vacation picture from Grand Tetons.

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A snowy wagon picture from a rare snowstorm.

The funny thing is that when I started upgrading her wagon, Mrs Danger was not impressed.  To her, a car was just a thing that held lots of stuff and went places. She didn't understand why I spent a cold afternoon cleaning spilled paint out of the back carpet when a can of paint froze and burst.  But as I continued to make changes, and the improvements accumulated, she started to like it.  She liked it a lot.  She hadn't noticed that the car sloshed and wandered, but she sure noticed it when the wandering stopped.  She discovered that she liked beating SUVs out of the light and up the onramp.   She quit tossing burger wrappers into the back seat.  She came out to help me wash the car for the car's sake, instead of just to be helpful.  Driving the Roadmaster wagon makes her happy.  Back when someone had pried open the trunk of her old car with a crow bar, she didn't really care.  But when someone broke out a window with a rock on the wagon last month, she was as upset as I was.  The LT1 wagon is the first car she has ever wanted to take good care of.  It's pretty cool.
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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeThu Dec 01, 2011 12:10 am

Cool write up & Congrats on receiving the LROM
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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeThu Dec 01, 2011 10:28 am

cool write up and congrats. You've already done more mods than I have to any of mine (need to get busy)....

Too bad you didn't swap those turbines off the Electra before you sold it....IMHO they are soooo much better looking than the alloys on ours.
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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeThu Dec 01, 2011 11:06 am

Great story Nick and from the sound and look of it Great Wife!
Congratulations on the wagon of the month.
Jim
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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeThu Dec 01, 2011 11:17 am

Congrats! Good pics and a good story. My wife likes my wagon too, she just won't admit it to me!

It's funny how much bigger the Electra looks in front of the Roadmaster in that one pic. I can relate, driving the 79 Electra and then getting in my Roady, the hood on my roady seems so small....and the dash so big. Ha!

307's suck....suck bad....

Keep the rare-colored Roadies like ours on the road!!

-Mike
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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeThu Dec 01, 2011 11:51 am

Thanks for sharing Nick. Quite a bonus that your wife doesn't just tolerate the wagon but genuinely likes it. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeThu Dec 01, 2011 6:14 pm

Nice story,.nice wife,.nice car.

Nick
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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeThu Dec 01, 2011 6:28 pm

Thanks for sharing. My father had the Caprice (307) just like your boxy. What a dog. I could outrun him with the 2.8 Celebrity wagon towing a trailer.
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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeThu Dec 01, 2011 7:30 pm

1phastsswagon wrote:
Cool write up & Congrats on receiving the LROM
Thank you.

Sprocket wrote:
cool write up and congrats. You've already done more mods than I have to any of mine (need to get busy)....

Too bad you didn't swap those turbines off the Electra before you sold it....IMHO they are soooo much better looking than the alloys on ours.
Thanks.

Yeah. It took me a couple of months searching Ebay to find a replacement hubcap. I ended up with a set of four. I included the three extras when I sold the car. I didn’t know that turbines were so well-loved.

If I had a fleet the size of yours, I wouldn't have time to do much to any one of them either.

Flasheroo wrote:
Great story Nick and from the sound and look of it Great Wife!
Congratulations on the wagon of the month.
Jim
Thanks. I think she’s pretty great. I’m lucky to have her.

81X11 wrote:
Congrats! Good pics and a good story. My wife likes my wagon too, she just won't admit it to me!

It's funny how much bigger the Electra looks in front of the Roadmaster in that one pic. I can relate, driving the 79 Electra and then getting in my Roady, the hood on my roady seems so small....and the dash so big. Ha!

307's suck....suck bad....

Keep the rare-colored Roadies like ours on the road!!

-Mike

Thanks. What I hated about the hood on the Electra was the chrome trim at the base of the windshield. There were times that I had to tuck a jacket on the dashboard to block the glare. Who the heck thought of that one?

DBeaSSt wrote:
Thanks for sharing Nick. Quite a bonus that your wife doesn't just tolerate the wagon but genuinely likes it. Smile

phantom 309 wrote:
Nice story,.nice wife,.nice car.

Nick

Thanks. I'm happy with my situation.

Nick.

BigBlackBeaSSt wrote:
Thanks for sharing. My father had the Caprice (307) just like your boxy. What a dog. I could outrun him with the 2.8 Celebrity wagon towing a trailer.

Thanks. I don’t know how well that engine would have worked if it had run correctly. Ours would have to crank for a minute or two to start, and then would stall out again at the first stop sign. It once died at a stop light when Mrs Danger was driving through an industrial neighborhood at 2AM. (She was coming home from an art opening.) So I assume that it didn’t pull as well as your father’s Caprice.
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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeSun Dec 04, 2011 1:44 am

Nice story, nice wagons and yes, the 307's are very, very slow. I noticed that when we went from the 307 to the 350 TBI, man what a difference. (but i don't have to tell you guys...)
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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeTue Dec 27, 2011 9:41 pm

Congrats on the WOTM, Nick.
Thanks for the great write-up, too!

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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeTue Dec 27, 2011 11:16 pm

Nice story, Nick. I like the progression. Smile And nice car!

And you are a lucky man. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeThu Dec 29, 2011 5:04 pm

Very nice! That pic of the 307 is frightening! So many of those old carbed 80's motors were like that, what a nightmare they could be to work on.
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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeFri Dec 30, 2011 12:30 am

Thanks for the nice story Nick. It's good to see you put the wagon to use with vacations and your wife's art business. I had a 307 Olds in a 1984 Buick Park Ave. I drove it coast to coast, it was pathetic. Tractor trailers were passing me going up grades.

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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeFri Dec 30, 2011 11:01 pm

Man, there is no love for the Y motor on here. I had a few of them, They weren't that bad when they were running right. Bump the base timing a few degrees, put in a 180 t stat, keep the egr passages clear, or block them off, and run mid grade fuel and it felt good.... fair. They were a pain to work on though. My tow pack '88 OCC felt the same as a 305tbi to me.

Oh, and nice cars, and story Nick. You don't look too dangerous to me though....

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PostSubject: Re: December Wagon of the Month   December Wagon of the Month Icon_minitimeSun Jan 01, 2012 10:19 am

Thank you.

Maybe the Y motor would have been okay if it were running right, but we never experienced that.

I may not look dangerous. No big deal. You don't look like you live in the wonderful world of Oz. But I take your word for it. After all, appearances can be deceiving.
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