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PostSubject: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeFri May 23, 2014 6:00 pm

Just getting ready to put Bravada console in and have a question on shift interlock, do you use factory one or the one in the new shifter, if you use the one in bravada shifter, do you disable the other one?? I have searched and can find no info on this. Thanks in advance
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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeFri May 23, 2014 11:52 pm

I used both, with a junkyard relay to invert the logic from the stock interlock.
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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeSat May 24, 2014 9:42 am

sherlock9c1 wrote:
I used both, with a junkyard relay to invert the logic from the stock interlock.  

Sherlock, do you have more info you could share with me on wiring this, I did grab the harness from boneyard. What is the advantage of using the stock one?? Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeSat May 24, 2014 10:12 am

rabalc wrote:
sherlock9c1 wrote:
I used both, with a junkyard relay to invert the logic from the stock interlock.  

Sherlock, do you have more info you could share with me on wiring this, I did grab the harness from boneyard.  What is the advantage of using the stock one?? Thanks

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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2014 10:16 pm

I used the factory shift lock, and disabled the Bravada lock. I did it this way because it was easy, and the factory lock worked fine, why mess with with it. Obviously the stock lock will only work if you are connecting the shifting parts of the floor shifter, and the shifting parts of the factory column shifter.
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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeThu Jun 26, 2014 4:12 pm

I bought mine done and it's connected to the column still also.
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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeThu Jun 26, 2014 9:54 pm

thanks for the help guys, I got it put in, used a used cable that looked real nice and feels tight, bravada doner only had 80,000 miles, but it has some play to it... can move floor shifter almost a whole gear without moving upper shifter. I did the bracket welding like shown on other posts, disabled bravada interlock. It moves though all gears fine, reverse lights work when in reverse, just feels sloppy. Guessing the cable may be no good? I had to use all the adjustment it had. will try to post some pics soon
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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeFri Jun 27, 2014 7:12 am

rabalc wrote:
it has some play to it... can move floor shifter almost a whole gear without moving upper shifter. just feels sloppy. Guessing the cable may be no good?

Are you talking about the factory shift indicator on the column not corresponding with the floor shift indicator?

Definitely want pics soon.
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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeFri Jun 27, 2014 5:31 pm

200OZ wrote:
rabalc wrote:
it has some play to it... can move floor shifter almost a whole gear without moving upper shifter. just feels sloppy. Guessing the cable may be no good?

Are you talking about the factory shift indicator on the column not corresponding with the floor shift indicator?

Definitely want pics soon.

no, they line up together good, just play in the floor shifter, like when the trans is in drive the floor shifter can move into n or d3 without changing gear in trans. Just lots of play in shifter
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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeSat Jun 28, 2014 1:58 am

Oh, gotcha. That seems like a lot of play.... Cable routing?
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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeSat Jun 28, 2014 1:06 pm

Make sure the ends of the shroud are clamped tight, and do not move. The cable must have no play in the trans and shifter arms. The exposed cable must be as short as possible to minimize bending when pushing the cable.
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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeSun Jun 29, 2014 12:48 am

By the way, there is another issue that occurs when moving the shifter off the column to the floor.

There is a safety interlock in the steering column, so that the rear gate  window can only be popped open when the car is in park, no other position.  When you allow the old bezel on the steering column to be loose and twist around clockwise, as though the car is in gear, you cannot open the rear gate window.

You won't even hear a click of a relay, causing a very large WTF to incur thereafter.  Better to rewire the switch wire to bypass the column so if it rotates accidentally, it doesn't become an issue to lockout your ability to pop the gate window open.


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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeSun Jun 29, 2014 8:10 am

lakeffect wrote:
By the way, there is another issue that occurs when moving the shifter off the column to the floor.

There is a safety interlock in the steering column, so that the rear gate  window can only be popped open when the car is in park, no other position.  When you allow the old bezel on the steering column to be loose and twist around clockwise, as though the car is in gear, you cannot open the rear gate window.

You won't even hear a click of a relay, causing a very large WTF to incur thereafter.  Better to rewire the switch wire to bypass the column so if it rotates accidentally, it doesn't become an issue to lock out your ability to pop the gate window open.

I fought through this issue once.  I definite bonehead realization moment when I figured it out.
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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeSun Jun 29, 2014 8:43 am

lakeffect wrote:
By the way, there is another issue that occurs when moving the shifter off the column to the floor.

There is a safety interlock in the steering column, so that the rear gate  window can only be popped open when the car is in park, no other position.  When you allow the old bezel on the steering column to be loose and twist around clockwise, as though the car is in gear, you cannot open the rear gate window.

You won't even hear a click of a relay, causing a very large WTF to incur thereafter.  Better to rewire the switch wire to bypass the column so if it rotates accidentally, it doesn't become an issue to lockout your ability to pop the gate window open.

The gate glass will also release in neutral. It is controlled by the gear position switch at the base of the column. If you can connect the original linkage, you can use it to move the gear position switch. The Bravada shifter may have a gate lockout switch on it already, and you could connect the glass wiring through it.
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PostSubject: Re: Bravada shifter help??   Bravada shifter help?? Icon_minitimeSun Jun 29, 2014 8:56 am

Fred Kiehl wrote:
lakeffect wrote:
By the way, there is another issue that occurs when moving the shifter off the column to the floor.

There is a safety interlock in the steering column, so that the rear gate  window can only be popped open when the car is in park, no other position.  When you allow the old bezel on the steering column to be loose and twist around clockwise, as though the car is in gear, you cannot open the rear gate window.

You won't even hear a click of a relay, causing a very large WTF to incur thereafter.  Better to rewire the switch wire to bypass the column so if it rotates accidentally, it doesn't become an issue to lockout your ability to pop the gate window open.

The gate glass will also release in neutral. It is controlled by the gear position switch at the base of the column. If you can connect the original linkage, you can use it to move the gear position switch. The Bravada shifter may have a gate lockout switch on it already, and you could connect the glass wiring through it.

that is something to think of, is the original switch the one under the hood where the column meets th fire wall? I am not having any issues with the above issues, but I can only imagine the first time the wife takes it to town it will happen to her. I also put a few pics in the pic and video section
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