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looks awesome! except those mirrors
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It is looking good Pat, mirrors and all.
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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeSat Feb 28, 2009 9:28 am

Nice! I want a garage that big!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeSat Feb 28, 2009 9:32 am

I think your wife would "draw the line" for the new garage.

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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeSat Feb 28, 2009 9:49 am

Nice little tour there. Careful you don't trip over something though. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeSat Feb 28, 2009 2:50 pm

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Nice! I want a garage that big!!!!

It's just an old warehouse, it's unheated and too cold to work in this time of year. But it is a nice space to store cars and when it's warmer out it's a nice place to wrok in, mind you that in the dog days of summer it can be too warm to work in there.... but on the upside you could fit 15 wagons in there if you did not need room to work on one. As an added bonus there is office space that you could live in we use as parts storage. Oh and the building is for sale so if you would like to move we can make a deal... Do you think Lucy would like Canada?
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looks awesome! except those mirrors

The mirrors were covered in frost in that clip, Wait till the car is done with all of it's custom chrome trim and wood grain back on for the full effect...
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Nice little tour there. Careful you don't trip over something though. Wink

Yes I could trip while I close the DOORS...... Laughing

That bang you heard as I walked behind my wagon was just an aluminium MGB hood that paul leaves back there for me to trip over...
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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 12:33 am

Its gotten warm enough in the shop to get the body work done...

So I'm working away on it...

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PostSubject: some rust and how I dealt with it   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 12:42 am

founds some rust
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some sand blasting and surface grinding removed all the rust
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Hit the area with some etching primer

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some light weight surface enhancer....{Thats the PC name for bondo these days}
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sanding , shaping and more sanding topped off with some primer

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PostSubject: the under belly   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 1:04 am

this 93 has been oil sprayed, but my feeling is that the original owners lived out in farm country and drove dirt and gravel roads, the rust pattern and where the rust was made me come to this conclusion. One other issue that helps me further the theory that this was farm wagon is the fact that the years of oil spraying was caked with dirt. Heavy with dirt and when the oils gets caked with heavy dirt it tends to pull away from the metal surface and form little pockets where moisture can fill the void and rust soon follows. I spent a few hours in the evenings over a month or so this past spring with a collections of putty knives scrapers and removed the bulk of the old dirty oil sprayed undercoating from the floor pans and frame of this wagon. I then used some old gasoline (that I drained from one of Paul's porsches the type of gas that you don't want flowing into your injectors) with a 3m scrubby and cleaned off the floor pans and frame. Once cleaned I cleaned up and dealt with any rust issues. I then painted the the entire under belly of the wagon before undercoating it.
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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 6:29 am

Nice work Pat. I think that rear bumper is looking good.
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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeMon May 18, 2009 9:51 pm

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Nice work Pat. I think that rear bumper is looking good.

+1 Your attention to detail is um, what's the right word? Inspiring? OCD? motivating? yeah one of those anyway Smile

looks great!
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PostSubject: Rear plate location/re-locattion   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeTue May 19, 2009 1:31 am

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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeTue May 19, 2009 1:35 am

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DBeaSSt wrote:
Nice work Pat. I think that rear bumper is looking good.

+1 Your attention to detail is um, what's the right word? Inspiring? OCD? motivating? yeah one of those anyway Smile

looks great!

I'm not OCD am I? but that's cool if I am cause that puts me in with Frank and that Guy in BC....

Just think all this started cause I wanted a sedan nosed wagon with power vent windows and deal with some rust issues......
it all started 12 months ago
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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeTue May 19, 2009 7:10 am

Hi Pat

Great video, love your creativity! But there is one thing that is missing, a name. Your previous work of art, so to speak, the Ratmaster, is internationally known by its name. This wagon with all the custom features needs an identity. I am sure one day it will come to you.

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PostSubject: I got mail today   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeWed May 20, 2009 7:43 pm

I got these in the mail today from eBay

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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeFri May 22, 2009 1:22 pm

Hi Pat

Did you secure the skirts or are they just mocked up?

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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeFri May 22, 2009 5:22 pm

Tom, they are secured with the supplied hardware. I'm going to remove that system and do my own system they need a few more anchor points. you may have a bitch of time with your I'm shaping both the skirts and the wheel openings to fit with each other, you are going to have to shape and fit your skirts to the wheel openings and that can be touchy if yours are anything like the ones I got.
I will document and post as I go along. Worse comes to worse I can help you with them the night before wagonfest if I make it.
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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeFri May 22, 2009 10:28 pm

Thanks Pat

It goes to the autobody shop Tuesday to have the bumper painted. I don't think I'm going to have him put them on yet. I will wait for you to do some inventing.

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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeFri May 22, 2009 11:14 pm

Here is the finished new plate pocket in the rear bumper, looks clean and simple

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PostSubject: Fender skirt fitting 101   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeFri May 22, 2009 11:36 pm

the first thing I've done was to remove the mounting bolts and spring loaded catch. I then put the skirts into the wheel well opening and makred out on the skirt where to trim and where to add material, they are not 100 percent and need to be trimmed or filled where needed. where trimming is needed I first filled in the back with long fiber reinforced fiberglass body filler. Once that was cured I trimed away and got the skirts to fit just right nice and snug.

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I then took some stainless bolts with a long smoothed shank protion and removed the threaded portion and smoothed off the cut making some nice stainless pins I drilled in two new holes on the top of the skirt and mounted the new pins with the fiberglass filler ( the bondo used to hold the originals in the skirt took a fair bit of effort to remove, so even if it looked cheesy it works well)

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The spring loaded release pins are nothing more than the spring loaded pins normally used to hold Bi Fold Closet doors in their upper tracks. cheap and easily available in most hardware stores. they are strong enough to hold solid wood bifold doors with glass panels for many years of use they can take life as a fastner for these lightweight fender skirts. I'm going to add a second one to the bottom of the skirt . One at the front and one at the rear of each skirt and two stainless pins on the top, will hold them nicely in place and will also make them easy to remove and put back on.



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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeSun May 24, 2009 1:24 pm

Coming along quite nicely. Are you going to try to get some chrome along the top edge there to 'fill' in the quarter chrome?
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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 3:25 pm

Pat, mine came with a gasket/seal.

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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeThu May 28, 2009 3:48 pm

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Pat, mine came with a gasket/seal.

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any pictures of them so I can have an idea of what they look like?
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I will take a picture tomorrow.

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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeMon Jun 01, 2009 4:21 pm

Here you go Pat.

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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeMon Jun 01, 2009 10:18 pm

nothing like that came with mine, so I just fired off an email to her asking about them.....
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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeMon Jun 08, 2009 7:38 pm

Hey Pat..I found this. Lol Any updates??
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sorry no updates, it was a busy car show week end. The ratmaster won the most creative Rat rod award at the unfininished Nationals in Paris Ontario this past sunday.....


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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeTue Jun 09, 2009 4:37 am

unfininished ??
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unfininished ??

are they ever truely ever finished?
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I have a question! Does the RMS lower door trim really fit on the wagon? I like the idea very much with the lettering on it...if things work out as I hope they do, I will be askign you a lOT of questions at WagonFest. Lol Lets just say I already have 2 mint '95 RMS inner fenders in storage. I just want to see how you do the wood on the front fenders...

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Only the front doors front fended dog leg lower trim from the sedans fit my sedan nosed wagon.....

and a hint of what you are waitting for

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YES ^ ^ ^ That spear has to be totally hand made!?!? This is gonna be niiice..
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home made ventiports?

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of course they are not finished, just testing to see if it would work...and Yes Jarrod did push me in this direction
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They have a similiar feel to the ones from the late 70's Buicks.....pretty slick.

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They have a similiar feel to the ones from the late 70's Buicks.....pretty slick.

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Chris your link is not working Shocked
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Whoops...let me try this He has gotta be the coolest kid in High School. Haha Smile

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Chris I got them exact wheels too......
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Here is a thought, Jarrod just sugested to me that I could back light them port holes....euro style lane change turn indicators?
or just a dim blue glow?
or should there be one light per ventiport that lights up with each corresponding spark plug like was done in 1947 by one of buick's designers so he could monitor how well his ignition was working. When Harley Earl seen that 47 buick in the staff parking lot one morning the buick ventiports were born.....that would be a bit over my electrical skills I think
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PostSubject: Re: 93 Progress report   93 Progress report Icon_minitimeSat Jun 13, 2009 12:07 am

A VERY subtle lighting might look good. European signals might be good, hard to visualize though, and all four of them? might be too much. Cool idea though!
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