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Subject: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:41 pm
but this is only my second wagon. Had an 86 and now I finally got the bubble! I wanted a 94 but found a good price on a 92 today with the tow package, which is nice. Im happy with the purchase and will be on the look for some heads and what not so I can get that LT1 power back I am used to from my 9C1s I've had in the past. Any body here know the gearing ratio off the top of their heads on these tow package caprices. Mine is the L05, 5.7...wouldnt of bought a 5.0, sorry 5.0 lovers. I am sure the stock tow cars would have the limited slip stock? are they 3.08 rears? Lug pattern looks big too, like a truck pattern?
Anyway I am sure I will be frequenting the forum, I finally got my bubble wagon and Im keeping this one! I have let too many caprices go! Never again! Once Im done with this one I am searching for a 91 Police package and between the 2, I will be a very happy man!
Thanks for having me guys!
81X11
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:56 pm
Good to have you here. Pics when you can!
porkchop
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Subject: Will get pics asap Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:06 am
81X11 wrote:
Good to have you here. Pics when you can!
And throw some up... It aint the prettiest thing as some guy thought he could paint but I actually can paint so should be decent soon!
81X11
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:10 am
I love before and after pics! We all gotta start somewhere! Post them up!
Here's mine: Before - As Found:
After:
Before:
After:
81X11
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:32 am
Oh and since you're a Caprice guy, here's my before and after 86 Caprice pics. ; )
Before:
After:
I love the boxy cars too.
-Mike
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:16 am
You did good. Your wagon is identical to mine. '92 tow package 350 should have the same 3.23 rear that I have.
The bolt pattern is still 5x127 like the other bubbles. I've heard the easiest mod for good power with these is a set of Vortec heads and a Vortec intake with a tune, but I don't know. I'd love to find out though. Welcome to the boards.
porkchop
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Subject: MAN! Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:02 am
81X11 wrote:
Oh and since you're a Caprice guy, here's my before and after 86 Caprice pics. ; )
Before:
After:
I love the boxy cars too.
-Mike
Im a HUGE box fan!!!! Like I said Last box year Police is my dream car!!!! But that, yours I mean, is SWEEEEEET!
porkchop
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Subject: YEAH Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:06 am
Stingroo wrote:
You did good. Your wagon is identical to mine. '92 tow package 350 should have the same 3.23 rear that I have.
The bolt pattern is still 5x127 like the other bubbles. I've heard the easiest mod for good power with these is a set of Vortec heads and a Vortec intake with a tune, but I don't know. I'd love to find out though. Welcome to the boards.
2.32 is a bit better than 3.08.... thanks man, It is 3.23 for sure too. I finally found that info. I imagine with that torque its pushing a 3.73 would be quite right! As far as vortec heads go, I can believe that would be a nice set up... Think Ill start shopping soon. I stole the car at 600 bucks and got some play money left! Thanks for the welcome!
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:55 am
Welcome aboard! Congrats on your find.
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:50 am
$600? Damn I'm jealous.
Got any pics? Let's see it!
porkchop
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:05 am
As you can tell from the pics this guy was a WHIZ!!! lol... You should see the before pic he had up. Stock paint was great!
He had the car maybe a month from an older gentleman and when he realized he couldnt paint he didnt want it any more. So he left the roof unpainted too, but whatever.
The body work on the rear isnt going to be fun but wont be too bad. The door thats dented I will just replace and then paint it in the spring. I'll just shoot some single stage enamel on it to keep it on the cheap!
Has good tires but he put 2 different sets of wheels on it. I need one beauty ring to match it all up and move the wheels around. I dont know why he put the 2 blacks on the passenger side and the 2 chromes on the drivers side. I am moving the chromes to the rear and blacks in front until I get some aluminums.
I will have a grille soon as I have a local junk yard with a few sedans to pick off of.
Interior is very straight!!!
The condition of the Tranny fluid is rough but it shifts fine so I am just going to do a drain and fill for now and see what we have, filter change too.
I love the car! I am sooo syked!!!
81X11
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:10 am
Looks like a solid start! Keep the pics coming. I like the Chevy truck rally wheels.
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:36 am
I'm getting a set of those soon. Except I'm doing something a liiiiiiiittle different.
Looks like a good project. That RR quarter scares me. All body work does.
81X11
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:37 am
They sell those tires at Pep Boys. FYI
porkchop
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Subject: Yup Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:43 am
Stingroo wrote:
I'm getting a set of those soon. Except I'm doing something a liiiiiiiittle different.
Looks like a good project. That RR quarter scares me. All body work does.
Not a fan of body work myself. Good thing is, if I can't do it, I live in West Virginia man. I know 20 good body guys who work DIRT CHEAP. With the economy the way it is guys need work and the prices are going WAY down. Had a rear main seal on my dads f150 done the other day for 55 bucks, parts included.
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:02 am
I wish I had that problem in FL. lol
porkchop
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Subject: Yeah Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:10 am
Stingroo wrote:
I wish I had that problem in FL. lol
It works! lol... Some back yard mechanic shops 'round here are quite good and do stuff for a good deal. and if a guy swaps an engine for me and charges 200 bucks, he pays half his rent and I got a good deal... Everyone wins! There's a few to stay away from but most are awesome guys with a lot of knowledge.
81X11
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:31 am
Good deal on cheap labor! Any idea what color? You going back to stock?
Looking forward to updated pics. Keep them coming! Neat car!
-Mike
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:38 am
81X11 wrote:
Good deal on cheap labor! Any idea what color? You going back to stock?
Looking forward to updated pics. Keep them coming! Neat car!
-Mike
Well Id LOVE to go with the chevy light blue that was on my 86...The almost baby blue chevy had??? If I can get that mixed in a cheap single stage I will. Unless business this summer is great, then I will shoot it in a base/clear AU...Who knows. If I cant make that happen then I will probably shoot it all white for a clean look. Nothing fancy man. I like to put my money where it counts, IN THE DRIVE TRAIN!!! I love a sleeper car! problem is I can never stay away from exhaust so the sound gives the car away sometimes... lol. I mean, I am not intending on this being a track car but Id love to yank out on a mustang in this big ole grocery getter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
porkchop
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Subject: HEY!!! Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:43 am
Stingroo wrote:
You did good. Your wagon is identical to mine. '92 tow package 350 should have the same 3.23 rear that I have.
The bolt pattern is still 5x127 like the other bubbles. I've heard the easiest mod for good power with these is a set of Vortec heads and a Vortec intake with a tune, but I don't know. I'd love to find out though. Welcome to the boards.
I showed you mine,,, Show me yours!
81X11
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:45 am
Yeah I appreciate the concept of a sleeper as well. ; )
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:58 am
Fair enough. Challenge accepted.
I'm pretty out of place on campus - this thing is the biggest vehicle here.
But MAN does it make moving out easy...
Grabbing some dinner one night with some friends I had to snap a pic.
Pardon the horrendously dirty engine bay (SORRY MIKE!!), but it sure does sound nice with the exhaust done (previous owner did it)
I have an awesome vanity plate. I'm still upset that the woman at the DMV lied to me. She told me it wasn't going to obstruct the runner in the center of the plate. Had I known it really would, I'd have just gone with ROO WGN. I may get it replaced this year, I don't know.
Blacked out the pillars too. I like it. You can see my stereotypical Floridian clear coat burn-in on the hood in that photo, buuuut....
Nothing a little rattle can can't fix. That's not regular satin black though - that's actually chalkboard paint. You can write on it and erase. It's a big hit in parking lots. I'll usually leave a piece of chalk on the wiper blades and see what people do. I need to throw another coat down though, I did it in a hurry.
It might not be the nicest wagon in the world, but I love it regardless, and have tons of fun. I'm slowly learning that that's the important part. Getting new wheels soon, and HOPEFULLY if I can get a passenger seat skin, a center console will be going into it.
porkchop
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Subject: UMMMM Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:03 pm
81X11 wrote:
Yeah I appreciate the concept of a sleeper as well. ; )
Posts : 13 Join date : 2011-02-02 Age : 45 Location : West Virginia
Subject: wow Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:05 pm
Stingroo wrote:
Fair enough. Challenge accepted.
I'm pretty out of place on campus - this thing is the biggest vehicle here.
But MAN does it make moving out easy...
Grabbing some dinner one night with some friends I had to snap a pic.
Pardon the horrendously dirty engine bay (SORRY MIKE!!), but it sure does sound nice with the exhaust done (previous owner did it)
I have an awesome vanity plate. I'm still upset that the woman at the DMV lied to me. She told me it wasn't going to obstruct the runner in the center of the plate. Had I known it really would, I'd have just gone with ROO WGN. I may get it replaced this year, I don't know.
Blacked out the pillars too. I like it. You can see my stereotypical Floridian clear coat burn-in on the hood in that photo, buuuut....
Nothing a little rattle can can't fix. That's not regular satin black though - that's actually chalkboard paint. You can write on it and erase. It's a big hit in parking lots. I'll usually leave a piece of chalk on the wiper blades and see what people do. I need to throw another coat down though, I did it in a hurry.
It might not be the nicest wagon in the world, but I love it regardless, and have tons of fun. I'm slowly learning that that's the important part. Getting new wheels soon, and HOPEFULLY if I can get a passenger seat skin, a center console will be going into it.
CHAULK BOARD paint.... Thats nuts! Great idea! lol...one of a kind Im sure! Love it!!!!!!!LMAO!!!!!!!
81X11
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:08 pm
As for exhaust I still have the factory true duals but replaced the huge stock mufflers with Flowmaster 40's. She burbles like a Chris-Craft at idle, rumbles when you put your foot in it, but is nice and quiet on the highway with the cruise control set.
I adore my Roady.
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:11 pm
Yeah. I might go ahead and do the whole hood in the paint. It'll get rid of ALL the ugly clear coat, and make the surface larger. But at the same time, unknowing souls will think of it as a lame primer hood like I'm some sort of Honda ricer kid.
Decisions decisions. :p
81X11
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:12 pm
CHAULK BOARD paint.... Thats nuts! Great idea! lol...one of a kind Im sure! Love it!!!!!!!LMAO!!!!!!![/quote]
+ 1 on the chalkboard paint. Funny stuff!
And I like of idea of the Chevy Truck Rally's on that car too. You can get them for $15 each at Pick-N-Pull, and they look good on the wagons.
81X11
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:13 pm
But at the same time, unknowing souls will think of it as a lame primer hood like I'm some sort of Honda ricer kid.
Decisions decisions. :p [/quote]
You resemble that remark. ; )
Just kiddin!
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:14 pm
Never! I'm creative.
I'm going a step above that. I found a set of four rally's with the center caps on CL, they look like brand new. I'm going to paint them red to match the car, then put the trim rings and center caps on them, that way - if I ever get a red repaint, they match. Or if I cave in and go the satin black (or all chalkboard?) route, they'll still be fitting.
porkchop
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:23 pm
Naw just a pretty'd up LT-1.
As for exhaust I still have the factory true duals but replaced the huge stock mufflers with Flowmaster 40's. She burbles like a Chris-Craft at idle, rumbles when you put your foot in it, but is nice and quiet on the highway with the cruise control set.
I adore my Roady.
Either way nice!!!! I love me some LT1!!!!!!!!!!! That 94 9c1 I had was mean nasty befor eI got into, But after I did...WOW! did some mild work with a steal HG, MSD stuff all over, mild cam, th400 w/ shift kit and trans break, 4.11 rear, 10inch wide street slicks and a lil more! I delivered pizza in the damn thing! It was great! lol Oh yeah...and a 80 dry shot of juice for fun!
When I brought the baby home!!!
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:26 pm
NOS in the baby seat! Love it!
81X11
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:31 pm
Man that 9C1 was loud! And 4.11 rear, I bet it lept off the line! Did that kill your mileage?
My car still has the stock tow package rear, 2.93's I think. I'd like to go the next step lower with an Impala SS rear for a little more low end power, but I've not tackled that project yet.
Right now my car gets around 20-24mpg on the highway, and since I use it for trips I'm concerned about going much lower, but I don't think the Impala SS rear would hurt my mileage much.
The great thing about old cars is you are never done. I get bored with cars I can't work on/upgrade. ; )
-Mike
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:35 pm
Stingroo wrote:
Never! I'm creative.
I'm going a step above that. I found a set of four rally's with the center caps on CL, they look like brand new. I'm going to paint them red to match the car, then put the trim rings and center caps on them, that way - if I ever get a red repaint, they match. Or if I cave in and go the satin black (or all chalkboard?) route, they'll still be fitting.
The painted-to-match wheels sound cool man! I've done that with Pontiac Rally II's. My 79 Bonneville was baby blue and I painted the normally-grey center area of the Rally II's blue to match. Only downside was I had to tape off all the light silver parts on those 2-tone Poncho wheels. I liked the look a lot once it was done.
Good luck and make sure to post pics!
-Mike
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Subject: yup Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:38 pm
81X11 wrote:
Man that 9C1 was loud! And 4.11 rear, I bet it lept off the line! Did that kill your mileage?
My car still has the stock tow package rear, 2.93's I think. I'd like to go the next step lower with an Impala SS rear for a little more low end power, but I've not tackled that project yet.
Right now my car gets around 20-24mpg on the highway, and since I use it for trips I'm concerned about going much lower, but I don't think the Impala SS rear would hurt my mileage much.
The great thing about old cars is you are never done. I get bored with cars I can't work on/upgrade. ; )
-Mike
And that was just 40 series... Nice off the line. I used to crank donuts in the parking lot from a stand still...no brake needed! I had 2 different sets of rear wheels. both rallys...one with street and one set was widened 2 inches by a friend (40 bucks lol) and had the street slicks.
The dry shot was for after the 1/8th mile. gas mileage wasnt that bad really.
The 3.73 rears are perfect I think thoug for a street car. My boys impala with 3.73 is nasty quick!
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:46 pm
Welcome!
Sprocket
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:16 pm
welcome. I see the mad graphic skillz the previous owner had, lol. I'm sure it'll look good when you get it painted.
I have a 92 also but a wimpy 5.0 in it (but it gets 26 on the hwy!)
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:39 pm
Welcome to the madness...........
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Subject: Re: NOOB here from WV. had many caprices Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:59 am
Hey Mike, check out this strange-ness.... same exact thing I was going to do to the wheels I was going to buy: