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PostSubject: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeWed Aug 03, 2011 12:42 pm

A little noisier than I would have liked, but they are in. They were used and had some funny wear marks on them, so I am not surprised they make a little noise. The right peddle now does more now!!
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeWed Aug 03, 2011 1:34 pm

........but it is NOT a hot rod!!
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeWed Aug 03, 2011 1:39 pm

It is a POD ROD, according to my fellow festers!!!
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeWed Aug 03, 2011 8:13 pm

Wouldnt it be great if your gas mileage went UP?
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeWed Aug 03, 2011 8:18 pm

With Tim, it just might go up. He'll be too busy driving it lightly to convince himself it isn't a hot rod.

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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeWed Aug 03, 2011 8:22 pm

Way too funny !

Probably dead accurate... but that's what makes it way too funny.
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeWed Aug 03, 2011 9:16 pm

What...... I know not of what you speak.

MUST GET GOOD MILEAGE OR SWITCH BACK TO 3.08 GEARS!!! That's going from Broadband internet back to dial-up. Yikes!!
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeWed Aug 03, 2011 10:42 pm

2.56 is dial up, 3.08s is broadband. 3.73, thats a fiber line Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeThu Aug 04, 2011 7:22 am

...so then what are my 3.42's.

Roadrunner?
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeThu Aug 04, 2011 6:58 pm

How do you classify 4:88's?

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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeThu Aug 04, 2011 7:53 pm

T1. lol
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeFri Aug 05, 2011 8:40 am

So I now have a pretty bad vibration at 75+ MPH. What changed? Driveshaft is spinning faster than it was before, but I never got any of this up to 100+ mph before. Might he have installed the driveshaft in backwards? Does it make a difference? Can the gears cause a vibration?
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeFri Aug 05, 2011 8:51 am

Tim, over the years on several of these forums, I've spotted notes about drive shaft vibration occurring after gear ratio changes. Can't say I understand what changed to cause it either. but it is not uncommon.
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeFri Aug 05, 2011 12:16 pm

Your going to have to have the drive shaft balanced, but your going to have to tell the guy doing the balancing, that it is a hot rod.... built for high speed sales calls. Aluminum might help too... SSR shaft fit the wagons?

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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeFri Aug 05, 2011 6:10 pm

drive shaft re-installed upside down,..re-clock it 180deg,.
use a hose clamp for home made balancing,.

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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeFri Aug 05, 2011 6:16 pm

200OZ wrote:
Your going to have to have the drive shaft balanced, but your going to have to tell the guy doing the balancing, that it is a hot rod.... built for high speed sales calls. Aluminum might help too... SSR shaft fit the wagons?

Mike

I do have that driveshaft......hmmmmm. I really want that in the Impala. Was looking for a second shaft, but it has not come through. I have a local shop that will rebuild, balance, make a new shaft for me if needed. I will bring it up to them when I can. Meanwhile I can put the aluminum one on to see if that solves the problem.

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drive shaft re-installed upside down,..re-clock it 180deg,.
use a hose clamp for home made balancing,.

nick

My though to Nick. I think the installer may have flipped the shaft. I hose clamp is a great idea, but where do you start and how do you know which way to turn it?
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeSat Aug 06, 2011 1:25 am

I hear Pep Boys does great work on drive shafts, you should give them a call.

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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeSat Aug 06, 2011 3:38 am

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phantom 309 wrote:
drive shaft re-installed upside down,..re-clock it 180deg,.
use a hose clamp for home made balancing,.

nick

My thoughts too Nick. I think the installer may have flipped the shaft. I hose clamp is a great idea, but where do you start and how do you know which way to turn it?
where the weight is welded on,. i usually start opposite the weight,.make a chalk mark for your starting point,run the car,. take a screw driver and ramps with you,. rotate the weight 90 deg, see if it,s better or worse,. repeat as necessary,. ..gets a bit tedious, i still have the steel shaft in the 6 spd car,.it drives thru the vibration after 50mph,.

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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeSat Aug 06, 2011 7:05 am

Stemmler wrote:
I hear Pep Boys does great work on drive shafts, you should give them a call.


Can you recommend a particular store Wink . BTW did you get your check?

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phantom 309 wrote:
drive shaft re-installed upside down,..re-clock it 180deg,.
use a hose clamp for home made balancing,.

nick

My thoughts too Nick. I think the installer may have flipped the shaft. I hose clamp is a great idea, but where do you start and how do you know which way to turn it?
where the weight is welded on,. i usually start opposite the weight,.make a chalk mark for your starting point,run the car,. take a screw driver and ramps with you,. rotate the weight 90 deg, see if it,s better or worse,. repeat as necessary,. ..gets a bit tedious, i still have the steel shaft in the 6 spd car,.it drives thru the vibration after 50mph,.

Nick

I will flip it first and if that does not help I will try the clamp. Thanks Nick!!
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeSat Aug 06, 2011 8:33 am

Flipped the driveshaft this morning. It had marks on it (white paint marker) as to indicate it was backwards. Will report back.....
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeMon Aug 15, 2011 9:38 am

So I re-programmed my speedometer and changed most of my shift points on the tranny. Pretty cool stuff.

I also think I found the quirky rev in the motor after 2-3 shifts. The shift points between up shift an down shift at a particular throttle position overlapped by 1 mph the wrong direction. Hopefully it is gone now.

Motor is still running pretty rich, so there is more mileage to get.
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeMon Aug 15, 2011 1:57 pm

Tim,is the vibration still there or did it go away when you flipped it?
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeMon Aug 15, 2011 2:08 pm

Lost the worst of it with the flip. There is still a very fine high frequency one. I will eventually get it balanced.
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeMon Aug 15, 2011 2:09 pm

Well thats good news!
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeMon Aug 15, 2011 5:03 pm

Yessir
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeMon Aug 15, 2011 7:36 pm

Tim, what are you using for software to reprogram?
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeMon Aug 15, 2011 8:16 pm

lakeffect wrote:
Tim, what are you using for software to reprogram?

Just got started with the 30day trial of tuner cat. Also use data master to log, again the trial version.
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeMon Aug 15, 2011 9:31 pm

so,. my caprice vs your roady?? both 3:73 cars,.
neither one is a hot rod,.
big smack down for the buick i think,.

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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeMon Aug 15, 2011 10:56 pm

The G-pa is slow..... not sure why but slow compared to equivalent cars....
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeTue Aug 16, 2011 7:13 am

Maybe your right foot needs to gain some muscle mass?
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeTue Aug 16, 2011 11:43 am

Maybe the Buick is waterlogged from all the washing!
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeTue Aug 16, 2011 3:00 pm

it'll definitely be quicker than the black car,. i just blew the motor up again.
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Sorry to hear that!!
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeWed Aug 17, 2011 11:32 pm

s'ok,. back in biz again with a new one,.off to the nationals

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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeFri Sep 02, 2011 6:15 pm

Just a quick update for those watching this post. My vibration and gear noise has is much less, if any left at all, after installing a SSR driveshaft.
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeFri Sep 02, 2011 6:19 pm

Oh and I seemed to have lost about 1 MPG average or so. Still in the heavy foot stage of the new gears, so more to come.
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Worst tank so far was 15.6 MPG. Tonight was 17.66 with fairly aggressive highway stuff at 62-75 MPH and in traffic letting them know it is me!! I think old lady driving will get me 19-20 so not to awful bad. Gotta keep it at 65 and below and get some pills for my chronic 3.73 foot.
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PostSubject: Re: 3.73:1 gears installed........ ;)   3.73:1 gears installed........  ;) Icon_minitimeSat Sep 17, 2011 8:54 pm

Tonight it took 18.xx gallons and change to fill it after 306 miles. 16.65 MPG... Not great.

I did notice it is running at 203-205* fahrenheit. Maybe a new thermostat is needed. Considering my spedo used to be off my 10% I really have not lost much. But my mileage still stinks. I need to swap the O2's as well.
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