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+7RDMLO5 Nick Danger Lynol 92cappy 95BRMW phantom 309 4501 Safari 11 posters |
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92cappy
Posts : 332 Join date : 2011-09-29 Location : Silver Spring MD
| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:45 pm | |
| Didn't come with it. Besides, it wouldn't fit flush anyways. You really need to see it in person. this dash kit is a POS. Doesn't fit at all. It's all I can do to keep the headunit in the dash.... | |
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4501 Safari
Posts : 43 Join date : 2010-05-13 Age : 78 Location : Where the hurricanes don't land in Florida
| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:48 pm | |
| Just got back from accompanying gwturbo on a parts pick up trip and looking over all these comments, and topic shift, on the speaker post. I appreciate the interest and will work on posting photos on what I am talking about and have attempted so far. Sometimes a picture is actually worth a thousand words as you see in the evolving discussion on dash kits for replacement radios.
Let's see some photos on speaker installations. Remember this is about ROADMASTER WAGON front door Concert Sound II system speakers. They do not mount to the door panels but to speaker mounts on the doors with a tweeter behind the little grill forward of the door handle. I'll include a photo of this as well. It is the same system used on the Fleetwood Brougham.
Thanks to all contributors!
Richard Snipes 4501 Safari in Jax, FL
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jayoldschool
Posts : 2728 Join date : 2009-06-14
| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:45 pm | |
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92cappy
Posts : 332 Join date : 2011-09-29 Location : Silver Spring MD
| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:50 pm | |
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mtrhead79
Posts : 1614 Join date : 2010-04-24 Age : 55 Location : phila. pa
| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:19 pm | |
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phantom 309
Posts : 5848 Join date : 2008-12-28 Age : 114
| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:45 pm | |
| why is this door speaker thread now hijacked to a head unit thread?? | |
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Krzdimond Admin
Posts : 3412 Join date : 2008-11-04 Age : 57 Location : Savannah, GA
| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:09 am | |
| The Chevy came with the 4x6 and the Buick (Concert sound) had the 6 3/4 (GM standard) with tweeters in handle. | |
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| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:10 am | |
| - Krzdimond wrote:
- The Chevy came with the 4x6 and the Buick (Concert sound) had the 6 3/4 (GM standard) with tweeters in handle.
Could he just grab the plastic surrounds from a Caprice and put 4x6's there if he wanted aftermarket, though? I would ASSUME so, since the holes in the door are probably already drilled for the mount. But, Richard, you'd probably be better off getting a shallow mount 6.5 than ANY 4x6. The brackets will require some cutting as well to fit the generally larger speakers of today, and frankly they just don't sound as good as most 6.5's that I've heard. For a decent upgrade set, try these: http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Reference-6032si-Performance-Loudspeaker/dp/B002C8AFEEThey have a mounting depth of less than 2" and should easily fit in your door. |
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jasonlachapelle
Posts : 1160 Join date : 2011-01-24 Age : 41 Location : CFB Bagotville, QC.
| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:43 pm | |
| Here are the photos Richard took. I've never had an issue bolting speakers in there. Sadly I threw out my old 6.5" CSII speakers (I couldn't GIVE them away on ISSF) so I can't compare with the speakers I have lying around here. The ones I have have the same measurements as you described, as they should since it's pretty std. You should post a photo of the back of the OEM speaker next to the speaker you're trying to install. I used component speakers and I mounted their tweeter ON the grille where the OEM tweeter is located, passing the wire through the door. I left the OEM tweeter in place, but disconnected. I didn't reuse the flimsy OEM wiring. I didn'T take any pictures of the installation, and I sold the car, so I can't get any. I don't know what your plans are, but you probably won't see much of an improvement if you are staying with the stock headunit and only replacing the front speakers, especially if keeping the OEM tweeter wired. I'd have to check through the FSM, but I think the CSII speakers have a nominal impedance of 10 Ohms, and the fronts and tweeters are oddly wired IIRC. I have some Boston Accoustics speakers I had in another car that I'm planning on putting in in late spring. I guess I can take pictures when I get around to it, but that probably won't be of any help to you. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:02 pm | |
| Yeah, okay, that's a regular 4x6 opening. Quickest solution would be to just grab the plastic baffles from a Caprice and drop 'em right in. |
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jasonlachapelle
Posts : 1160 Join date : 2011-01-24 Age : 41 Location : CFB Bagotville, QC.
| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:30 pm | |
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phantom 309
Posts : 5848 Join date : 2008-12-28 Age : 114
| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:31 pm | |
| I vote we ask a mad ,. err,... MOD,. to coagulate the relevant posts into a sticky include the 1.5 din adapters in the other thread,. very good info,.
Nick | |
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jasonlachapelle
Posts : 1160 Join date : 2011-01-24 Age : 41 Location : CFB Bagotville, QC.
| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:01 pm | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: I wonder why I bother, but want new Front Door Speakers in the '95 RMW Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:04 pm | |
| I would love to be there to hear the difference with those new speakers mounted.Do the drivers door first so you can switch sides to hear the difference in the sound quality. Jim |
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4501 Safari
Posts : 43 Join date : 2010-05-13 Age : 78 Location : Where the hurricanes don't land in Florida
| Subject: Update...February 10th, 2012 Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:22 pm | |
| Well... wahoo...I got the Infinity 6032si speakers and they are a direct drop in! Did not come with any wiring or mounting screws. Did come with some universal adapters and foam tape. The adapters are not needed and I really cannot see what good the tiny bit of foam tape does. Speaker works with the Buick factory CD/Cassette radio just fine, thank you very much. I will do the passenger door next.
Big tip I learned: do not reuse the 7mm socket head screws holding the speakers in place when installing replacement speakers. If the ones I've done are any indication, there is not enough room to get the screw AND a socket in the space available; a Phillips head screw works fine and fits!
I took the speaker wiring from the Fosgate pair and made adapters with the OEM harness speaker plugs, They perfectly. By the way, I also replaced the rear speakers with the Fosgate four ways I've had on standby for years. Guess what...now I have working rear speakers also. The connectors for the Concert Sound II front door tweeters are the same as for the rear OEM speakers, so making a speaker to OEM harness was simple, using all the junk yard speaker connectors I'd collected over the years.
Next on the list is to swap out the factory radio with the double din JVC Sat ready unit with the front input plug. I got all the XM stuff new off eBay and am considering a CD changer in the rear storage box if I can find a JVC CH-X1500 changer. The radio should have enough power to drive this simple system. At least I can hear the radio now...
Thanks to all who contributed. I'll chime back in when I get more done.
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