Wagon Fest New York

Accordning to my speedo you were all only doing 75.

"last year we all saw 85 ish.... except for the tbi's"

Mike

1993 Roady-man wrote:

Accordning to my speedo you were all only doing 75.

200OZ wrote:

"last year we all saw 85 ish.... except for the tbi's"

Mike

Wow.......

Wasn't your spedo way the heck off when we were going to Front Royal last fall????

TBI's can go 75??

nick

We had a tail wind...........

Good News for all you Wagonfest Nationals 2012 festers.

Once again, our own Bewber (John) has graciously accepted an offer to produce both event stickers and T-shirts for this years Wagonfest Nationals.


Does anyone recall who made the dash plaques last year. Last year on this forum we discussed having the vehicle winning overall favorite being on the following years plaque.
I'd like to keep that tradition alive. Any thoughts?


As with John, once again I'd like to keep our Wagonfest business within our own wagon community, by having someone within make the items. ideas please?


Dave

lakeffect wrote:

Any thoughts? ideas please? Dave

Perhaps stop trying to duplicate the previous wagon fests,. next thing you know you're going to want money to cover plaques, prizes,. auctions,. bingo, bake sale, trophies .dinner, breakfast,.gifts,.t shirts pants,. jackets,. kids toys,.key fobs,. You'll be all stressed out because the minimums aren't met,.and folks will be expected to chip for stuff they don't give a raahtzaz about,.

I thought this year the theme was simplicity,.show up,. and every man for himself,.and that was a popular idea??

As i said last year, why not 1 decent polo type shirt with wagonfest on one side and forum name or given name on the other,. re-usable every year,. i,ve got a drawer full of t shirts that i don't wear,(dating back to 05). i don't look good in much these days and a t shirt makes it all look worse,.

*sigh* deja vu,.


Nick
jm2c,. majority rules of course,.

Dave,

I gotta, agree with Nick, if it you want to keep this thing going, keep it simple, it will work great; if you make it a lot of work again, WF will have a short shelf life. Eliminate all the things that add up to too much work.

I think I read, you were going to bring a barbecue. I think that is a bad move. Let everyone be self contained. Dave, you need to reread this post (include your postings). The message is loud and clear--Keep it simple!. If you get geared up like other years, you're just creating a problem down the road.

Tom C.

I have to agree with Nick too. Simplicity is best. But more than willing to help you out Dave when I get there. I know some of you look forward to the extra stuff and it is nice,... but simplicity is best IMHO. Will do whatever the majority says in the end without regrets. Just love being there.

Thanks John for doing the shirts again. I would still like to get some long sleeeve shirts from you too. Like I had mentioned in another thread.

I appreciate everyon's input and will take those points into consideration. The last few comments above I find particularly insightful. Thanks. I'd like to hear more opinions, but be mindful they are best when they come from those with an intention of attending the event.

lakeffect wrote:

Does anyone recall who made the dash plaques last year. Last year on this forum we discussed having the vehicle winning overall favorite being on the following years plaque.
I'd like to keep that tradition alive. Any thoughts?

Chris (brokecello) did the dash plaques last year.

There are already costs involved regardless. The 20x40 tent is not free. The shelters were never free. There is a Fee for every vehicle to enter the park. the Beer permit was free last year. New York State might charge for it this year.

I will try to minimize the costs, but it won't be zero

Are we going to do trophies/ awards this year? There is an awards/promotional item company in town that my family has dealt with for a few years. I can get a price on a small trophy for best wagon, etc.

Dave,

I think the program as it was last year was great. That being said, it was a lot of work for Mike, Michele, Joel and others.

I would get some funds as a deposit and commitment from attendees before I would put much $$ as a deposit on a tent. Do a survey and see will attend.

T-shirts are something I think work well. Maybe just let Bewber offer them to whom ever wants them. That keeps you out of the mix and helps your simplicity.

I agree with Tom on the Grille. If you do any food we can call in or go get pizza or subs on our own.

Dash plaques are not my thing, but I know others like them (Scoob8000). I do not think these will break the bank for anyone.

It sounds like the car show in Geneva after the track works great and keeps it simple for Friday.

Put me down as an attendee.

Tim

Yes I was planning to provide the plaques again this year for the Fests...already have pics of last year's winners. Would like to make just one plaque design for the year though, so waiting till all locations are locked in.

Chris

im himhawing on going....it was a long drive and an expensive hotel (compared to michigan and carlisle) and i really had a blast in michigan. i want to know if a few other people are going...bewbs, doug, nick, ?

dave,. the tent i can see as a necessary,.what ever the cost,.it should be divided between the participants,.a quick round of the hat will take care of that,

.if it,s too much costs up front, then post up a paypal addy,. and we can contribute upfront.

i signed for the beer permit last couple of years,. no biggie,. it can be done the day of,.

There are those community hokey BBQ pits if i remember rightly? a bag of bricks and everyone can cook their own,.??
BBQ lamb sounds good,.with a nice mint sauce,.

i,m hoping to have the blue wagon there this year,.

Nick

Nick, and everyone else Thanks for the encouragement.

I had asked about a Grill site being near the tent and was assured there was one there.
So, I agree bringing some charcoal and some lighter isn't a big deal. Not a problem.

I think what made such a big production of last year, was the hassle Mike went through trying to accommodate everyone's desires with wings and salads and pizzas. God bless him for trying so hard.

At the same time,I don't want to send people packing to fend for them selves. I'd be a poor host to do that . I'm looking at it more like you guys have been invited to my house for a picnic... and you all have the courtesy to eat what's put in front of you. It won't be lamb chops. (unless of course one of the sheep really pisses me off ahead of time)


Grabbing a few packs of dogs and burgers, rolls and toppings isn't a big deal either. What doesn't get eaten becomes my labor Day dinner.This meal will not be up to Weight Watchers Points standards Ain't happening.

I also need to call back to make sure they throw a few tables underneath it as well.

Pizza, wings, subs were the easy part, that's why we did that. No food prep, just pick it up at Wegman's, and clean up is light and easy.

The hardest part was getting all the stuff to the Lake. 2 cars, drinks, coolers, paper products, Ice, trash bags (good ones), and all the other stuff that gets overlooked until the last minute. After it's all said and done you have to get all your trash packed up to go back with you. We can't leave anything behind in the park, they will charge you a fee.

Dave, I'm not sure the hot dogs and hamburgers will be any good 10 months later.

Mike

yeah, I meant Labor Day.
Thanks for the other insights as well.

Dave

200OZ wrote:

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The hardest part was getting all the stuff to the Lake. 2 cars, drinks, coolers, paper products, Ice, trash bags (good ones), and all the other stuff that gets overlooked until the last minute

Mike

lakeffect wrote:

Nick, and everyone else Thanks for the encouragement.

I had asked about a Grill site being near the tent and was assured there was one there.
So, I agree bringing some charcoal and some lighter isn't a big deal. Not a problem.


At the same time,I don't want to send people packing to fend for them selves. I'd be a poor hostess

You see whats happening already?,. somehow dave you are shouldering the job of "host",.precisely what i think we should try to avoid,.IF people are smart enough to find wagonfest on the internet, they should be smart enough to read the sticky stating they will be responsible for their own food stuffs garbage etc,.I,m sure there will be some community food available,.

I,ve read of many other car get ogethers and i,ve attended a couple where folks provide for themselves,.an extra burger or a pop here and there means little,.or if folks want to share their particular fare all the better,.but come to this event knowing full well you are going to have to take care of your own needs,and plan accordingly..

Wagonfest has enough merit and tradition, it does not need a host for foods per se,

it,s great that your are co-ordinating things at your end with the park folkskudo,s to you too.,

Wagonfest needs to be primarily a longroof forum membership driven event, with all members ahsorbing the costs and labour necessary to make it a really fun `community` event,.

Rise to the occasion wagoneers,.pack your wagons,.and come to new york for the wagonfest days

Nick
jmho,
mroc

Thanks for the input. There's still plenty of time to get it all sorted out.

Ok,
First off count me in.
I am working on my hotel booking and I have already requested the time off from work.

Now on to the less important stuff.

I am with Nick.

I vote we stick with the KISS principal. (Keep it Simple Stupid)

No one person has to do anything special besides to make sure we have a central point. Dave you have taken this on and that's all you should have to be concerned with. Thank you for doing this and please let us know the Cost so we can all chip in towards the expense. The attendees as a group can cover everything else we will need. If you feel you want to help or provide more then please feel free to do so. You should not however feel obligated beyond this besides showing up and having a good time.

I put on several events over the summer for my Flying club. The best events are the ones where you are in charge of what you want to bring.

For example one person brings a generator one brings the propane for the grill another brings some food etc.. We fly some things we crash some we eat some and everyone has a good time.

So for this I propose. Bring a cooler. Bring some food. Everyone brings some good stories and we have a nice day hanging out at the park.

No need to complicate anything just follow the Kiss Principal.

I also like an Open format. No requirements no pressure. Just hang out do what we do.

As far as the other events go. I really had a good time at the Track. I also think going to the car show on Friday night will be a good time. Hang out at the park on Saturday then Head home Sunday sometime after we crawl out of the Hotel.

Douglas

Well, I am in for sure Just booked the hotels on Hotwire. Wife is combining it into a business trip for her too. Will be staying in Ithaca. Have to do Watkins Glen!! Looked too fun to pass up. Have to finish Jade!! Can't bring a Civic to NY again...

Chris

Ok Guys, according to your responses so far in this thread, looks like we have about 15 vehicles already committed to Wagonfest 2012. Thanks a great start. and it's only March 1, 2012.

Hey guys,

I have been out of the loop for a while here, I think my last wagon fest was 2008 or maybe even 2007 and my wagon has been mothballed for longer than I care to think about, but I hope to make it up there this year!

Roadmattster,.. well do make plans on coming it is always fun but i'm sure you know that. And the park is amazing, something for the kids to do if you got them.

look what i found at wal mart

I have just received confirmation that the City of Geneva is in fact having their cruise-in car show on Friday July 27, 2012 within the downtown area. Plenty of cool cars to look at, and food vendors to be taken in.

They are also trying to organize a cruise around the lake earlier in the day. Perhaps some that have no interest in going to Watkins Glen for laps at the track, may find this of interest as an alternative. It might also prove useful as a Friday night event after the track.

I'll keep you posted as more information becomes available from the civic group that sponsors it.

lakeffect wrote:

Ok Guys, according to your responses so far in this thread, looks like we have about 15 vehicles already committed to Wagonfest 2012. Thanks a great start. and it's only March 1, 2012.

Add another one to the list, Wife and kids are excited to take a Vacation to New York.

Hopefully, I'll be adding new info about about Wagonfest Nationals 2012 towards the end of the week. I've been been waiting for info to get posted on the City of Geneva events site first.

booked microtel today, might have the whole crew this year. my 2 boys always come but might be bringing wife and daughter. i saved on the room i opened a wyndham credit card and got 2 nights free with 1st purchase or balance transfer. i paid for thursday night but if i use card enough between now and then i get enough points i can use them instead. i already belonged to there rewards club and have points from last 2 stays at the fest so i might get enough for thursday. just thought i would let everyone know about the credit card deal.

That reminds me I have to book my room. Hope we get a nice turn out this year.

Still haven't gotten any response yet from the city of Geneva top post up . I'm on hold till that happens.

I am about ready.

Well, If there is a Wagon Fest I'm going! If there isn't I still may go to Seneca Park!

Thanks
Randy

There will definitely be one on July 28 2012 at Seneca Lake State Park in Geneva NY.

I just don't want to post incomplete or inaccurate information.

(Edited, because like a schmuck, I posted inaccurate info! DOH!)

lakeffect wrote:

There will definitely be one on July 27 2012 at Seneca Lake State Park in Geneva NY.

I just don't want to post incomplete or inaccurate information.

Uh.... Inaccurate info..... WFNY is Saturday July 28th.

Everyone still doing Microtel after party?

200OZ wrote:

lakeffect wrote:

There will definitely be one on July 27 2012 at Seneca Lake State Park in Geneva NY.

I just don't want to post incomplete or inaccurate information.

Uh.... Inaccurate info..... WFNY is Saturday July 28th.

Exactly! Mike caught an error already! The date is the 28th at the park. The 27th will be for Watkins Glen and what I hope will be a car show in downtown Geneva in the evening.

I'm also checking into the point that the county fair is also on that same weekend. Maybe a demo derby!

The plot thickens. All good things Dave.

I will be attending. I have a room reserved for myself at the Microtel.

I would think we will be having an after hours gathering at the Hotel as per usual.

I couldn't get a room in Geneva. I have one for Fri. night in seneca at a Micro hotel.
Party is at the Geneva Micro hotel?

Randy

yakko wrote:

I couldn't get a room in Geneva. I have one for Fri. night in seneca at a Micro hotel.
Party is at the Geneva Micro hotel?

Randy

its at the seneca microtel where everyone stays and hangs out sat night

Guess I've got the right place. Micro hotel in Seneca zip 13148.

Randy