trying to compile a production number list of wagons by year as the numbers generated by compnine are a little different than what I read
Last edited by Sprocket on Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:38 pm; edited 1 time in total
Sprocket
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:36 pm
Wagon production numbers project completed per the compnine tool
1A2 production 1996 1A2 wagon total = 1 1995 1A2 wagon total = 154 1994 1A2 wagon total = 217 1993 1A2 wagon total = 168 1992 1A2 wagon total = 172 1991 1A2 wagon total = 134 Total = 846
1991 OCC = 6,897 1992 OCC = 4,347 Total Production = 11,244
1991 RMW = 6,781 1992 RMW = 11,715 1993 RMW = 9,714 1994 RMW = 8,885 (wow over 5600 had beige interiors), 6250 had the tow pack 1995 RMW = 5,675 1996 RMW = 9,147 Total Production = 51,917
1991 Caprice = 13,600 1992 Caprice = 13,400 1993 Caprice = 10,546 1994 Caprice = 7,805 (I noticed 2 cars were built with an L99...we know where one of those went...) 1995 Caprice = 5,361 1996 Caprice = 638 Total Production = 51,350
Total Last Generation B-body wagons = 114,511
got a fe VINs off of ebay and auto trader to complete the list so considering the tool uses GMs data base it's probably accurate (but those 91 and 92 caprice numbers seem too round to me)
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Robert 96
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Subject: Wagon production number table completed Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:37 pm
Very nice work. You know it's interesting that with 1992 being the largest production run for the Buick Roadmaster you hardly ever see one for sale or even on the streets.
DBeaSSt Admin
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:26 pm
I'm not refuting the numbers here but I wonder where the 638 number came from for 96 Caprice wagons. It's been long held that the number was less than 500.
Great work though and certainly nice to have this info!
Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:32 am
Robert 96 wrote:
Very nice work. You know it's interesting that with 1992 being the largest production run for the Buick Roadmaster you hardly ever see one for sale or even on the streets.
A large number of them are down here in FL!
I have a white one. Fairly non-descript, factory wheels, tinted windows (see avatar).
Anyway I often have people at work thinking they have seen my car. They come up to me and say things like "Hey I saw you this weekend over in _____ or up in ____" . and almost everytime it wasn't me!
Sprocket
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:51 pm
Greg72 wrote:
Robert 96 wrote:
Very nice work. You know it's interesting that with 1992 being the largest production run for the Buick Roadmaster you hardly ever see one for sale or even on the streets.
A large number of them are down here in FL!
I have a white one. Fairly non-descript, factory wheels, tinted windows (see avatar).
Anyway I often have people at work thinking they have seen my car. They come up to me and say things like "Hey I saw you this weekend over in _____ or up in ____" . and almost everytime it wasn't me!
+1 I parted a LAB 92 RMW woody and sent two more 92 LAB to the Great White North last year. So every '92 RMW I've had has been a LAB woody. I've held title on 8 wagons since Aug 2007 and 2 were 92 RMWs. So that's 20% for me
Sprocket
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:53 pm
I'd love to find out production numbers for WB4s for the various years. I recently saw that 92 WB4 on ebay. I didn't know that option was avail on TBI Buicks.
phantom 309
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:30 pm
Quote :
1994 RMW = 8,885 (wow over 5600 had beige interiors), 6250 had the tow pack
and 8000 of the were gold too i suspect,.
Nick
Sprocket
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:24 am
Update on the numbers here. The 91 OCC I bought from Chris has a number higher than the count I have above for OCCs. My wagon is a late 91 built in May 91 and it's over 7000 on the last 5 of the VIN.
This agains throWs a layer of fog into the mix, lol.
MOD. Please sticky this thread....
Olds Weighty Eight
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:59 am
It's probable that the last 5 digits were assigned in serial to all product coming down the line and not segregated by make. Back then there was a mix of B-bodies being built at Willow Run. From a GM press release:
Quote :
-- Willow Run Assembly Plant, Ypsilanti, Mich., with 4,014 employes. It produces the Chevrolet Caprice sedan and wagon, Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser wagon and Buick Roadmaster Estate wagon. Production of these vehicles will be consolidated with production at the plant in Arlington, Texas. Consolidation will be completed, and the Willow Run plant will cease operations by the summer of 1993.
Sprocket
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:26 pm
Yes, but I had figured the OCC numbers should accurate as an Olds is not a Buick so the Vin count should be wagon only as there was no Old's sedan.
If they did share the number then my 7xxx OCC should be a lot higher count in sequence being built so late in the model year. I had OCC cars built in 11/1990 that were #s 139 and 868 built about two weeks apart.
Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:19 am
It's quite possible that one plant was assigned a range of numbers and the other plant was assigned a different range. And/or they didn't necessarily start at 1. EG: (to pick numbers out of a hat) Willow Run: 00101 to 05000, Arlington 050101 and up. Lots of manufacturers do things like that to make headroom for prototypes, etc.
Sprocket
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:17 pm
Well for me the Olds was only built at Willow Run from what I understand. Personally, I owned car 139 which even if they started at 101 the count doesn't match up with the compnine totals above and the VIN on my late 91....
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:37 am
Does anyone know where the single 96 1A2 is?
Sprocket
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:45 pm
It was reported to be the security guards car at the Arlington plant
harrisons13
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:31 pm
That's intresting, ive always wondered why would they only make one 1A2 wagon.
Dutch Pete
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:17 am
Was over in Vegas last week, did see 3 different RMW's and one OCC. (good to see these old whale's, compared to all the new stuff) Pete
Fred Kiehl
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:09 pm
Any idea how many of the 91 OCC that were gold with the gold cladding?
DBeaSSt Admin
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:32 am
I don't have any information on specifics. Though I have heard it is the rarest of colors next to black.
Sprocket
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:41 pm
Fred Kiehl wrote:
Any idea how many of the 91 OCC that were gold with the gold cladding?
If someone has the compnine subscription u should be able to find out
JIMMYDPCC
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:20 am
Id also love to know about WB4's
goldwolfnhn
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:45 pm
I ran the vin on my 94 through a site that would give a rundown of all the options and production for each option, got a pretty big shock when I saw the number of wagons for 94 with the 30B option which is for the blue cloth interior according to them in 1994 there where only 582 wagons with the blue cloth interior.
Sprocket
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:01 am
goldwolfnhn wrote:
I ran the vin on my 94 through a site that would give a rundown of all the options and production for each option, got a pretty big shock when I saw the number of wagons for 94 with the 30B option which is for the blue cloth interior according to them in 1994 there where only 582 wagons with the blue cloth interior.
interesting. add that to the beige number I posted and you would be left with the red interior as they were the only 3 interior colors in the wagons 94-96.....I would have thought more blue than red but there you go....
goldwolfnhn
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Subject: Re: Wagon production number table completed Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:42 pm
well that's just for 94 with CLOTH blue interior, so you would still have the vinyl blue and the production from 95 and 96, but if those numbers are similar that would be a good explanation as to why blue interior parts are so hard to find
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