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| Two audio questions, one for the third gen B body owners specifically | |
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Dead Reckon
Posts : 14 Join date : 2013-09-14 Age : 35 Location : Roanoke
| Subject: Two audio questions, one for the third gen B body owners specifically Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:44 pm | |
| Alright, let's be honest, the speaker mounting positions in the 80's B body's are, well, horrible. 3.5's in the dash, 4x10's in the back. Ya'll can put 4's in the doors, tweeters up high, and 6x9's in the rear. I listen to metal, so I don't care about a whole lot of bass, though that will be addressed in the second question.
Anyway, first my question is, how exactly do the rear speakers mount in your cars? I know you have 6x9's somewhere back there, maybe somewhere I could use? Perhaps ya'll have some sort of bracket from a junker laying around that would save me nightmares? 4x10's are not an option, they don't do much without distorting horribly.
Secondly, anyone had some experience with the Infinity Basslink sub? Again, metal, don't care for booming, just want fill, that's the main reason I want the bigger speakers in the back, the 3.5" screamers I can live with in the dashboard with a low pass filter on 'em through the head unit or when I add an amp. I'm likely going with this subwoofer because I refuse to sacrifice space for a larger unit, when I can easily mount this one to the back of the mid row seat. | |
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| Subject: Re: Two audio questions, one for the third gen B body owners specifically Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:56 pm | |
| The Infinity basslink subs are pretty decent. Just like you said, great for fill - not much more.
Our 6x9s go in the side panels up above. I may have a photo of the mount/bracket. Let me dig around my archive for awhile. |
| | | Dead Reckon
Posts : 14 Join date : 2013-09-14 Age : 35 Location : Roanoke
| Subject: Re: Two audio questions, one for the third gen B body owners specifically Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:18 pm | |
| Thanks man, by the way, love the paint on your Caprice. I plan to do my Olds up similar, but mine will be true flat black. I don't think satin looks good on a car with no curves, think it looks great on a car with curves though. I was planning on mounting the 6x9's up where the rear windows use to be or something, since I'm gonna convert mine to a panel wagon. Maybe if there are brackets I can use them, and if it's sheet metal, maybe I could get it out of a junker 90's B body. I believe nothing should be wasted on a car that is not repairable. There will be nothing but a shell when my parts wagon leaves, would keep the differential but it's just a GW9 2.93, I want to find a posi. I'm a bit of a pack rat. Side note, if you see any words missing letter, I think my keyboard needs batteries again. I hate wireless keyboards, 'cept that they are easier to clean and shove out of the way when you need a desk. But it was free, and I love free things. Got my distributor cap, rotor, wires, air filter, alternator, and carb for free. Free makes me a very happy person. | |
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| Subject: Re: Two audio questions, one for the third gen B body owners specifically Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:52 pm | |
| Thanks for the compliemtns. I have a thread in the Member Projects section. If you're handy, you could easily make better brackets, honestly. They sit under here: In crappy stamped brackets like these: Images came from here: http://www.butchthecat.com/94caprice/speakers.htmHope it helps! |
| | | Dead Reckon
Posts : 14 Join date : 2013-09-14 Age : 35 Location : Roanoke
| Subject: Re: Two audio questions, one for the third gen B body owners specifically Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:23 am | |
| Yeah, thanks for the info, I can probably fab something to fit where the rear windows are soon to have formerly lived. I can't really mount speakers in those panels in my car 'cause when I pull out the spare tire, that ENTIRE panel comes out. Thing is as long as a Smart car and you have to wrestle it back into place. Anyway, I know the Ford Taurus / Mercury Sable wagons had 'em mounted up high in the 90's, 6.5's though. I guess when I can make it to the junkyard again I'll start rooting through cars for ideas. The speakers will likely live in a 6x9 box I have laying around that I got for free many years ago for a while. It's one of those partitioned off 6x9" truck boxes, came pre-loaded with Jensen 6x9's that are long gone. Horrid, HORRID speakers, good box once I hot glued the terminals in to stop 'em from being blown out if you cranked it.
Oh as for rear speaker mounting, I can PM you a couple of links if you really want to see some strange GM engineering. My 4x10's sit on elevated brackets with a bizarre dip in the sheet metal for the magnet, I may fab in some 5.25" speakers to live back there. It's like GM said "Hey, let's figure out how to fit the most off the wall speaker size in when we could do what everyone else is doing and use round five and a quarter inch speakers!". Bet everyone was drunk at that company meeting. I mean come on, you've got to source a bracket, how much can it REALLY cost on a Oldsmobile (Second only to Cadillac at the time) to put in some cheap properly sized speakers? GM carried on their fixation with oddball speakers even in your car, it seems, 4x6's in the doors, that's an even worse size!
Anyway, rant on bad engineering, off.
I'll check out your car page later today, I'm biding my time before I have to go on a cleaning spree of the assorted buildings on this property. 'least I have the riding mower and a trailer to haul junk from one dusty building to the dusty garage in the front of the house. | |
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| Subject: Re: Two audio questions, one for the third gen B body owners specifically Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:39 am | |
| Yeah, the 4x6 fronts are terrible. I fixed that problem, though: Worth every penny. Good luck with your project. The boxy wagons are sweet. |
| | | Dead Reckon
Posts : 14 Join date : 2013-09-14 Age : 35 Location : Roanoke
| Subject: Re: Two audio questions, one for the third gen B body owners specifically Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:41 pm | |
| Where did you buy those door pods at? I may be able to rig those, or something similar onto my doors. I wish I could find some of the OEM Concert Sound enclosures, think they where a Bose factory option... Which is to say, no better than factory. But they hold 5.25's, think only the Pontiac's had them in the 80's. | |
| | | lakeffect
Posts : 3892 Join date : 2009-08-18 Location : Rochester NY 14621
| Subject: Re: Two audio questions, one for the third gen B body owners specifically Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:46 pm | |
| There is also room in the tailgate for 6x9 speakers as well.
The doors will handle larger speakers with a little engineering of the door metal. | |
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| Subject: Re: Two audio questions, one for the third gen B body owners specifically Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:43 pm | |
| - Dead Reckon wrote:
- Where did you buy those door pods at? I may be able to rig those, or something similar onto my doors. I wish I could find some of the OEM Concert Sound enclosures, think they where a Bose factory option... Which is to say, no better than factory. But they hold 5.25's, think only the Pontiac's had them in the 80's.
www.customspeakerpods.com |
| | | Dead Reckon
Posts : 14 Join date : 2013-09-14 Age : 35 Location : Roanoke
| Subject: Re: Two audio questions, one for the third gen B body owners specifically Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:26 pm | |
| Thanks for the link, sting.
As for the tailgate, lake, are you referring to my car? Because that rear glass rattles easily, feel like that would be a can of worms making it stop.
As horrible as it may look, I may run bolts from the brackets that held in the 4x10's out to a set of "Truck" type speaker boxes. Since I"m paneling over the rear quarter windows, it shouldn't matter much.
Also, either of ya'll have experience with the Rockford Fosgate P300-10? Seems to get a bit more favorable reviews than the Bazooka, and it's 100 watts more. Plus it's in an actual MDF box, not plastic like the Basslink.
Also if it matters, I'm going with kicker KS or CS series, ain't using DS though, don't like those.
EDIT:
Found some speaker pods for 6x9" speakers for an ATV, floor pan speakers, but the way they are angled I was thinking of putting them on the back of the middle seat, just taking the top half of the seat off, drilling some holes, and bolting the speakers right to the back of the seat while somehow hiding the wiring. This would allow some use of the folded seat, as the speakers would be up against the drivers seat while it was folded. Can't link, but I can send you a PM if you want to help me out with this madness, give feedback, thoughts, ect.
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| | | 68GS400
Posts : 38 Join date : 2011-07-19 Age : 77 Location : Marietta, GA
| Subject: Re: Two audio questions, one for the third gen B body owners specifically Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:29 pm | |
| Did you ever solve this? I put Polk 4 x 6 in sail area and dash and Rockford Fosgate in bottom front corner of front doors. That helped spread front sound over a more broad area. A BassLink will be installed in that 'glovebox' in back as soon as I can come up with gppd plan to prevent rattles and to let out the bass!
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